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Retroman1969 11-30-2014 12:50 AM

Bought the Beater Boxster....
 
UPDATE...

This is a follow up post to my older one: http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/54493-thinking-using-boxster-hyper-daily-driver.html

I've gone back and forth with this car for a few weeks. This sad little Porsche was sitting on one of those We-Tote-The-Note car lots in the old industrial section of downtown. We finally settled on $4500 for the car, so my car-nut-friends helped me pick it up and see how well it could clean up and detail-out.
(The second cleaner Box in the pics is my other car, both '99s)

Covered in dust, grime, and bird crap at the car lot. (Not me, the car!)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psjqrog73e.jpg

Following my friend Jim through the city (at one point he pulled beside me on the freeway, called me, and said: "This is my boss, Jonathan Hart..." For those who remember the opening to that show, LOL)
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psia7em10j.jpg

Stopping for lunch.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psvsfgxe6l.jpg

I'm shocked with just what a decent wash did for it!
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psaycbqqu3.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psluzvrcjr.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...pssrqvofhq.jpg

After that we went to my friend's shop where we hit it with polish, wax, and headlight restorer for the crusty yellow headlights.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...pspvh3m0oq.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...ps7nzk0reu.jpg

Now it sits at the Porsche garage where it awaits a full fluid service and final inspection to see if anything needs immediate attention.

It has many cosmetic issues: two good sized dents, torn driver's seat, lots of fine scratches in the paint on the doors where it looks like an excited dog has jumped all over it, and terrible condition back window. But it's intended as a Beater Boxster so hey.
I'm frankly shocked with how it drives. Runs/drives smooth and solid as a rock. A missle on the highway, and appropriately docile in town. It is equipped with Tiptronic (I, a huge stick shift advocate, am quickly falling in love with this tranny), memory seat, among the more typical options. Brand new set of Michelin tires! Everything works perfectly, another pleasant surprise. It currently has 124,000 miles on the clock, has clearly not had the easiest life, yet still drives and operates like it should... still makes me giggle like a fool as much as a new $54,000 one would.

Retroman1969 11-30-2014 01:09 AM

PS: It has that funky green interior which is also growing on me.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...pswdasqlxo.jpg

Jim snapped this quick pic as I pulled away to drop it off at the garage. Exhausted but happy. It was a fun day.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...psoycnrnc6.jpg

RedTele58 11-30-2014 04:11 AM

Cool - you bought it! :cheers:

I've been watching it on the OKC Craigslist the past few weeks wondering what the deal was if you were going to grab it or not.

Now you have two. Be careful, it's a slippery slope... :D

Rick

BIGJake111 11-30-2014 04:47 AM

Great thread and nice snag with considering the tires! Hopefully it won't give you too much trouble. You could definitely make a bit of money off of this car in the long run as long as your other boxster doesn't get jealous.

Have a great time in your new beater, more character than a typical porsche with that green interior and scratches and dents!

Keep us up to date on how you feel about the tiptronic, how quick you think it is, if you use it in manual, how it does on downshifts in manual. How you like the gear mappings, as well as the location of the manual buttons.

78F350 11-30-2014 08:19 AM

Congrats! Glad to see you finally pulled the trigger on that one. I first saw the CL ad about the time I bought my '99 back in August and was wondering how long it was going to last. Glad it found a good home.

BoxsterSteve 11-30-2014 08:23 AM

Hey Retroman, enjoy!
You paid just slightly more than roller money for a decent looking car with a little patina.
Just drive it and grin, buddy.

rp17 11-30-2014 08:28 AM

Nice score. Drive the wheels off that Boxster. Congrats!

thstone 11-30-2014 09:37 AM

That is a lot of car for $4500. Have fun and keep us up to date on this.

Retroman1969 11-30-2014 10:11 AM

Thank you guys!
Yes it was on CL for quite a while, about 5 months I think. The lot was in kind of a bad area, and they just kept the car stuck in a corner, unwashed and run-down looking, and they also deal in cash only on certain cars. I'm sure all this led to it not selling for so long.
So far I'm liking the Tip. In auto mode, 90% of the time it shifts just where I want it to, and I love the dash indicators showing what gear you're in. Occasionally it will hang onto a gear a bit too long, or shift a bit too early, but mostly works great. Manual mode works very well too. Love the feel of it, although I can't use the thumb shifters if I'm trying to down or up shift through a turn or sharp curve. One fun surprise in auto mode: While entering a curve from 75mph I started brakeing hard and the tranny began to downshift rapidly through all the gears to assist in the brakeing. It was an awesome feature! I'll try to report in when I have more quality time with it. ;)
Speaking of brakes, I noticed that it has cross-drilled rotors on it. Something my other car doesn't have. Was that an available option on standard Boxsters? Either way, cool to have.
I love that it has character and I don't have to walk on eggshells around it. Just get in and drive, drive, drive. I'm going to call it Harper as reference to Paul Newman's beat up old 356 in the 1966 movie Harper. :)

Thanks again for all the great comments!

Ckrikos 11-30-2014 10:28 AM

Wow, 4500$ is a killer deal for a working car. What are the stats, miles etc? Any problems? I like the interior, talk about rare.

particlewave 11-30-2014 10:31 AM

That's a steal, assuming all checks out. Love the wheels! :D

BIGJake111 11-30-2014 11:34 AM

Great tires and cross drilled rotors, I do not think that was an option. I remember loving when the tip would downshift like that! What's your opinion on it selecting second for most pull aways?

Retroman1969 11-30-2014 12:10 PM

Thanks! :)
It's a '99 Base
124,000 miles
Optioned with:
Green interior (which apparently was extra cost)
Power memory seat
CD changer
Tiptronic Transmission

Everything works well and smoothly.
The only issues I detect so far are a slight clunking and squeaking from left rear suspension on bigger bumps and dips. Probably a bad shock or bushing. And get light ticking noise from engine after its warmed up. Could be something minor like the wrong weight oil, or more like worn or sticky lifters. Not sure.
All the mechanicals feel very tight and it runs and handles like a good healthy Boxster.

It had one owner who traded it in last year at a Mazda dealership. Mazda sent it to auction where the small lot bought it.

I dont at all mind the Tiptronic taking off in 2nd. Still has plenty of oomph, and makes smoother starts in traffic. ;)

It's probably going to need some stuff, but it's worth it, as you all know. All part of the game of driving interesting vehicles. ;)

thstone 11-30-2014 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 426797)
Speaking of brakes, I noticed that it has cross-drilled rotors on it. Something my other car doesn't have. Was that an available option on standard Boxsters?

All 97-99 base Boxster's came from the factory with solid rotors and drilled rotors were not offered as an option.

Aftermarket drilled rotors are perfectly fine and IMHO they look sportier and have a little better brake feel than their solid counterparts. The only downside is that drilled rotors can get small cracks and need replacement if driven very, very hard (like on a race track).

woodsman 11-30-2014 02:27 PM

I've never seen nor heard of a green interior. I like it. And as was said before- for roller-money!:cheers:

TeamOxford 11-30-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 426739)
It has many cosmetic issues: two good sized dents, torn driver's seat, lots of fine scratches in the paint on the doors where it looks like an excited dog has jumped all over it, and terrible condition back window.I'm frankly shocked with how it drives.

Runs/drives smooth and solid as a rock.

Congrats on the find.

As for the cosmetics, I wouldn't invest too much into fixing them. Dents - an experienced paintless dent remover can smooth them out. Guys who work the used car lots can do some amazing things. Torn driver's seat - sheepskin or fitted cover. Fine scratches - some aggressive polishing compound. Back window - keep the top down, or just don't worry about it.

Your Boxster will seem to ride super smooth with those 16" tires. Must feel like a luxury car on the highway.

Good luck with her.

Just sayin'...........

TO

Retroman1969 11-30-2014 03:35 PM

Thank you!
Those rotors do look pretty sharp I have to admit, and should be fine, as it will likely never see a track.
I'd never seen the green before either. It was a little startling at first with the silver, but I'm kinda diggin' it now.
TO, that's just my thought on the cosmetics as well. ;)
It does really have a smooth ride on the highway, ideal compromise for a DD.

husker boxster 11-30-2014 03:54 PM

Congrats!

And remember, there's nothing wrong with owning multiple Porsches. ;)

Ckrikos 11-30-2014 04:41 PM

Its called nephrite green and it looks like a full leather interior by looking at the doors. Hook her up to a durametric to check for any codes and for timing deviation, check the oil filter, make sure coolant is pink or green and you should be all set. Get a steamer and clean the leather and carpets she'll look good as new.

dghii 11-30-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 426812)
Thanks! :)
It's a '99 Base
124,000 miles
Optioned with:
Green interior (which apparently was extra cost)
Power memory seat
CD changer
Tiptronic Transmission

Everything works well and smoothly.
The only issues I detect so far are a slight clunking and squeaking from left rear suspension on bigger bumps and dips. Probably a bad shock or bushing. And get light ticking noise from engine after its warmed up. Could be something minor like the wrong weight oil, or more like worn or sticky lifters. Not sure.
All the mechanicals feel very tight and it runs and handles like a good healthy Boxster.

It had one owner who traded it in last year at a Mazda dealership. Mazda sent it to auction where the small lot bought it.

I dont at all mind the Tiptronic taking off in 2nd. Still has plenty of oomph, and makes smoother starts in traffic. ;)

It's probably going to need some stuff, but it's worth it, as you all know. All part of the game of driving interesting vehicles. ;)

Rear clunking is most likely the drop links...cheap to replace! I started to get a little clunking in my 2000S up front this last spring. Given the mileage at the time, 117K, I figured I was ready for struts for sure. I pulled the drivers side tire and found a tear in the drop link boot. Given I had a couple of used links on hand from an earlier Boxster project, I swapped them out and the noise was gone. I'm now at almost 121K and still quiet.

dghii 11-30-2014 06:57 PM

Congrats by the way! I've picked up two white 98's in the last few years....one for $4,800 and one for $5400. Both were very solid, yet neglected and dirty.

You're going to love your new 'beater'.

Retroman1969 12-01-2014 04:47 AM

Thank you guys! :)
My mechanic checks the filter, coolant, and does the Durametric test at every oil change, so hopefully he'll have all good news. ;)
I think I've heard about the drop links before, so we'll see what he finds. I'll mention it to him anyway.
Anxious to get it back and start enjoying it! :)
I'll report in when I get it back.

NewArt 12-01-2014 06:29 AM

:) If only other repairs on the Boxster were as easy (2 bolts) and as inexpensive as drop links!

Retroman1969 12-01-2014 12:09 PM

Yes indeed. ;)
My guy says he's going to have the car a few days, not only to check everything thoroughly, but also to send the key off to have a couple of copies made. (He knows of a place in Dallas that cuts them for a fraction of dealer cost).
Wish me luck! ;)

dghii 12-01-2014 04:10 PM

Very good and best of luck. I know you're enjoying this. When I bought each of the 98's, I couldn't believe I was buying this great of a car for the price of a used whatever. Both were two owner cars with about 118K miles.

Both Boxsters were sold to friends after I completed all the required maintenence for their mileage and fixed what needed to be fixed.

The buyers are still friends so I guess all is good!

Nine8Six 12-02-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 426833)
Thank you!
I'd never seen the green before either. It was a little startling at first with the silver, but I'm kinda diggin' it now.
TO, that's just my thought on the cosmetics as well. ;)
It does really have a smooth ride on the highway, ideal compromise for a DD.



Coincidence you have green shirts in both your appearances? see OP pics

Dunno, maybe the car chose YOU. I.e. it got a mind of its own... I'd be careful if I were you lol

Congrats on the find! Btw thanks for sharing those pics and following-up the hyper story :)

Retroman1969 12-02-2014 01:03 PM

That's cool dghii. I'd say it's a good sign. ;)
Ha, I hadn't noticed the shirt! I wonder if it would lean more towards The Love Bug, or Christine territory?

Many thanks for the comments!

PS: I studied the CarFax, and it turns out I'm actually the 3rd owner. It spent the first 11 years in far NW Los Angeles. It had the ignition switch and window regulators replaced at 25,000 miles, and the brake pads and rotors replaced at 44,000 miles, and the entire transmission replaced at 45,000 miles. Two weeks later it was reported as a total loss for some reason, and went into possession of the insurance company. One year later it suddenly pops up in Newalla OK of all places (Newalla is a hole in the road out in the middle of nowhere that conjures up shades of "Deliverance"). It's soon traded to Bob Moore Mazda in Edmond where the lot I bought it from picked it up at an auction.
It has been around, but no shock.

JayG 12-02-2014 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 427026)
That's cool dghii. I'd say it's a good sign. ;)
Ha, I hadn't noticed the shirt! I wonder if it would lean more towards The Love Bug, or Christine territory?

Many thanks for the comments!

PS: I studied the CarFax, and it turns out I'm actually the 3rd owner. It spent the first 11 years in far NW Los Angeles. It had the ignition switch and window regulators replaced at 25,000 miles, and the brake pads and rotors replaced at 44,000 miles, and the entire transmission replaced at 45,000 miles. Two weeks later it was reported as a total loss for some reason, and went into possession of the insurance company. One year later it suddenly pops up in Newalla OK of all places (Newalla is a hole in the road out in the middle of nowhere that conjures up shades of "Deliverance"). It's soon traded to Bob Moore Mazda in Edmond where the lot I bought it from picked it up at an auction.
It has been around, but no shock.

probably stolen and the ins company paid out the claim and then the car was recovered and sold

jdlmodelt 12-02-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 426791)
That is a lot of car for $4500. Have fun and keep us up to date on this.

I agree! :) well done!

Retroman1969 12-02-2014 06:13 PM

Thank you jdl!
JayG, I hadn't thought of that, but I bet you're right. I just realized today that the driver's door lock cylinder is busted. The doors currently have to be locked either from the button or from the passenger door. Might be related to the stolen scenario.

Pdwight 12-02-2014 06:37 PM

Looks to be a heck of a deal.........BTW I love Red Green

Retroman1969 12-03-2014 01:22 PM

Awesome! I've been a fan of that show since the '80s. :)

Retroman1969 12-05-2014 05:58 PM

Okay, visited the shop today. They had it up on the lift and showed me what it needed:

Serpentine belt
Front brakes
All four rear CV boots (joints are fine)
Cooling system service (flush and replace fluid)

And that's it.
Surprising for a 16 year old car with 124,000 miles on it.
Rear brakes are fairly new as is the water pump, thermostat, and hoses.
Front end is tight and all boots and bushings up front in good shape. They couldn't find one leak or stain from any previous leaking. It's tight. :)
Shop owner test drove the car and said he was very impressed with how it drove.
I think I got a good one for a bargain! :)

husker boxster 12-06-2014 02:34 AM

Interesting that the PO would change the rear brakes but not the fronts, esp since the fronts are needing replacing.

Ckrikos 12-06-2014 05:07 AM

I wonder why they would recommend a coolant flush. I wouldn't mess with the coolant system unless you're changing the tank or pump.

Retroman1969 12-06-2014 06:39 AM

I'm going to guess that the rears were scraping and the fronts weren't yet, since the fronts were probably replaced twice as often as the rears. The fronts still have pad but it's getting really close and the rotors are "grooved" pretty deeply, so they can't be turned.
I just worded it wrong on the cooling system. They're not actually flushing it, but just draining the coolant and refilling with fresh. I guess to make sure it has 100% correct coolant in it. I agree with that since we don't know what all has been done to it by previous owners. Might as well start as fresh as possible. ;)

Gilles 12-06-2014 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroman1969 (Post 427468)
I'm going to guess that the rears were scraping and the fronts weren't yet, since the fronts were probably replaced twice as often as the rears. The fronts still have pad but it's getting really close and the rotors are "grooved" pretty deeply, so they can't be turned.
I just worded it wrong on the cooling system. They're not actually flushing it, but just draining the coolant and refilling with fresh. I guess to make sure it has 100% correct coolant in it. I agree with that since we don't know what all has been done to it by previous owners. Might as well start as fresh as possible. ;)

Retroman,

You also may want to flush the brakes hydraulic system as this should be done every couple of years anyway..

Congratulations on your find!

Retroman1969 12-06-2014 05:51 PM

Thank you Gilles!
I'll ask about that. I'm trying to rack up a list while they still have it. ;)

CraigM 12-10-2014 06:46 AM

So I saw an ad on eBay that made me think of this thread...apparently there is a shirt just for you.
Double Boxster T-Shirt by gogowheels
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1418226335.jpg

Retroman1969 12-10-2014 08:43 AM

Way cool Craig! Thanks for the link, I think I'll have to order one to wear at the car events. :)


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