996 getting close to 986 prices ?

[j.fro]

I Picked up my 996 almost two years ago. 1999 Carrera 4, 6sp, 50k for $18000. It's everything my 986 isn't: all-wheel drive, bone stock, both my wife and the dog love it!
It sometimes seems 996/986 prices are going up!

[BIGJake111]

My assumption is that while fairly stagnate, the Boxster has already bottomed out and people are asking for a little bit more than they did a year or two ago, while 996s are just now bottoming out.

With word of turbos, 4 cylinders, and electric drive in the future, water cooled 6 cylinder porsches are about to be the second chapter for porsche with the first pages of the third chapter already visible in the e hybrids and now turbo GTS cayanne as well as the 919, if history repeats itself porsches latest and greatest is usually off of last years race car. Notice the comparison of the 996 gt3 and gt2 with the gt1 racecar.

Of course many of these watercooled porsches were mass produced so they are are not big collectables, but the watercooled era particularly the fore runners can likely expect to stop dropping in price at the least, the 996 is essentially bottomed out or at least will be soon, so if you want one, by my inept 17 year old analysis, now would be the time to buy.a

[itsnotanova]

I kind of dig the wood trim. Maybe because it's not something you see every day.

I attempt to buy Porsches on a daily basis and I think the prices have gone up on all Porsches. There's always a mark up in price when the word "Porsche" is on something. I have a theory that the aircooled bubble is sucking all the other models up with it too.

[jacabean]

Originally Posted by itsnotanova

I kind of dig the wood trim. Maybe because it's not something you see every day.

I attempt to buy Porsches on a daily basis and I think the prices have gone up on all Porsches. There's always a mark up in price when the word "Porsche" is on something. I have a theory that the aircooled bubble is sucking all the other models up with it too.

I wonder what the cost of that wood was back in the day ? Prices in my region seem to be dropping . The above mentioned car would have been around 25k two years ago .

[ChrisZang]

In my neck of the woods even 2002/3 996 are now in the lower $20k range

[LagerAle]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

A fair amount of 98 and 99 911s have been listed for a few under 20 latly, which is comparable with 03 and 04 boxsters base or S. It'll make the buying process tough for some. Do you want the bigger power and the "worst 911" or a great mid engine roadster with polarizing styling and a "lack of power."

As an aside most affordable 996s I have seen have been cabriolets.

Is there a posting contest that i am unaware of? So many, so little substance...

[cfos]

Originally Posted by LagerAle

Is there a posting contest that i am unaware of? So many, so little substance...

Interesting observation. But, to answer you question, no; I think you are among the newer (and more restrained) members (posters). Most others have adapted to Jake and either find humor, reminisce about their own lost youth, or ignore it/him/me. Personally, I'm still wondering about his thread on the Boxster being the best track car. Can't think of a thread where he ever said he's been on the track or an autocross from which to develop an opinion, yet opinions are free and, from what I've learned, you can't teach a new dog anything - I've tried. Jake is quite young and I think they now learn l33t in kindergarden instead of cursive in elementary.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by cfos

Interesting observation. But, to answer you question, no; I think you are among the newer (and more restrained) members (posters). Most others have adapted to Jake and either find humor, reminisce about their own lost youth, or ignore it/him/me. Personally, I'm still wondering about his thread on the Boxster being the best track car. Can't think of a thread where he ever said he's been on the track or an autocross from which to develop an opinion, yet opinions are free and, from what I've learned, you can't teach a new dog anything - I've tried. Jake is quite young and I think they now learn l33t in kindergarden instead of cursive in elementary.

Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car, I simply posted a link for others to read, I have absolutely never had track experience but am looking forward to it sometime soon.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car, I simply posted a link for others to read, I have absolutely never had track experience but am looking forward to it sometime soon.

Really?

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

I've gotta say if your giving yourself a 15 margin you could get a much cleaner and track ready boxster within the margin; as for my opinion on the other vehicles, I vote neigh on the Mazda 3, that FWD stuff is blasphemy, and the triumph would make a good project car but likely not track car.

I guess you're right. You have no opinion(s) about what would make a "good" track car -- see I even used quotes like you did.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by BIGJake111

Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car, I simply posted a link for others to read, I have absolutely never had track experience but am looking forward to it sometime soon.

And since I have some time as I finish my coffee, a little constructive criticism:

"Did you ever read the thread about it being a track car,..."

Ok -- this sounds like a question, so you want to use a "?" instead of a ",". Also, "even" would be a better choice than "ever" -- I think what you are going for is a little bit of angst and/or frustration rather than "ever" which implies something else.

"..., I simple posted a link for others to read,... " This is an independent clause and can stand by itself. However, I would like to state that this is not true as you also posted opinions in the thread.

"... absolutely never..." I, and many others, know what "never" means. I don't think you need to qualify never with "absolutely", but to each their own.

[particlewave]

Originally Posted by cfos

Interesting observation. But, to answer you question, no; I think you are among the newer (and more restrained) members (posters). Most others have adapted to Jake and either find humor, reminisce about their own lost youth, or ignore it/him/me. Personally, I'm still wondering about his thread on the Boxster being the best track car. Can't think of a thread where he ever said he's been on the track or an autocross from which to develop an opinion, yet opinions are free and, from what I've learned, you can't teach a new dog anything - I've tried. Jake is quite young and I think they now learn l33t in kindergarden instead of cursive in elementary.

Your obsession with Jake is...odd.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Your obsession with Jake is...odd.

You call it an obsession, I call it a hobby. Would you rather I spend time wondering why you've chosen to put "potato" in your name/avatar? I mean you put it there for a reason, right? Are you trying to be funny? What is it about the potato that perks your interest? Does it have something to do with Dan Quayle and tomato?

Oh, before I forget, how was that time you spent hanging with Danger in the nether? Remember? You said something about an absence with your 2000th post - how did that work out for you? What was it like? Was it potato-rific? Inquiring minds want to know!

[particlewave]

There's nothing bad about a potato

You catch more flies with honey...

[cfos]

Originally Posted by tonichristi

Old men that make teenage boys their hobby usually go to prison.
Step away from the keyboard and find a real hobby or address your homosexual pedephile desires.

Interesting diagnosis. A little bit of projection, wouldn't you say? Why so protective? Jake has always held up to my (and others) comments, right? Why do you feel the need to protect him? Also what's with the pedophile charges? Really? You know me so well? You know my age? I have to say that's a bit harsh, but I guess we all know where your head is at, don't we?

If you do the research, I also respond to PL's posts with the same vigor. Difference, of course, is our respective opinions on a great many things differ, and PL knows how to use the English language. In fact, I'm not sure anyone noticed, but a historical event occurred recently - PL said he liked the fried egg lights - which to my recollection is the first time this occured on the 986 forum. I haven't quite figured out a proper way to recognize this historic event. Has anyone else?


Edit: oh, never mind Toni, I did a bit of research. Nothing will be gained from our continued conversations - you are far too worldly for the likes of me. Surprised you condescended to posting to me. Also, surprised that you request the proper use of English.... Except, I guess, when it comes to Jake where you obviously have a soft spot. Kinda creepy, if you ask me. I guess I prefer to treat each equally without the favoritism.

Originally Posted by tonichristi

Your point is moot. I was speaking of the fact that LEOs are not all angels and wanting to protect yourself is not paranoia. Obviously.
There are plenty of cases of police misbehaving during traffic stops.


MarkT - I am far from new. Though my current account reflects 15 months of membership, I have been posting on the forums for years (had to start a new account after a hiatus and forgotten password/defunct email address).
I am all too familiar with JFP, don't like him and give respect to those deserving of it. That guy is nothing more than a Durametric peddler.

"The guy that knows more about these cars than the rest of us put together?" Ha! What a joke. Sure, that applies if what you're asking about has to do with a diagnosis tool.
Would you like some lube to make the job easier? How do you type with yours in one hand and his in the other?

"An long-time member"? Who's the moron? Use proper English, please.

[BIGJake111]

Darn, this topic was interesting and now it's another jake thread, let me get the popcorn. I used ever instead of even as I found even to be disrespectful. Yes I posted opinions but the point of the post the link, "not hey everyone I think the boxster is best track car look at this link that agrees."

Anyways back to your pedophiliac accusations, I mean you know what they say about men that drive convertibles .

My personal diagnosis would be that cfos secretly sees a bit of himself in me.

[kjc2050]

No pun intended!

[particlewave]

I have to admit that I've been looking at 996's. The problem is trying to justify a second toy.
I'm not getting rid of the Boxster!

[Ckrikos]

Looks like a great car. I want a base 996 but my wife would kill me if I bought a second porsche and not a bigger house.

[Jake Raby]

But all the cars still cost the same to repair... I see people;e all the time that can afford to buy these cars, but they cannot afford to own them.

Approach with great care and understand that the cars are no cheaper to own than they were when they had tens of thousands of dollars higher selling prices. Honestly, today the cars are more expensive to own then they used to be.

Go in with both eyes open; expect the worst and always be prepared for it, while hoping for the best. Low mileage doesn't help, either.

[thstone]

Buying a low priced 996 is a great first experience in 911 ownership. And as a Boxster owner (or previous Boxster owner) you will already know 90% of what you need to know about the car and the financial commitment to ownership.

With that being said, I am seriously thinking of selling my 996. I have nothing bad to say about the car; 996's are an incredible deal right now and you'll never find another car with that level of performance, luxury, and panache for under $20K anywhere.

But now that I own the 78 911SC, I'd rather drive that car most of the time and the 996 is gathering a lot of dust...