10-05-2014, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
It is not the driver it is the car, a cops main job is safety, and slowing down a civic that will under steer into oblivion or a f-350 that could plow through 3 houses is more important than slowing down one of the cars with the most active safety on the road.
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Oh, again, I apologize. I wasn't aware that cops are taught about the physics of each and every car so that they know "under steer" and can pick it out within the few seconds they have of a car traveling at 55mph+. So glad you told me of this.
Oh yeah, I guess you also imply that all Porsche owners undergo a rigorous assessment to demonstrate their complete lack of asshattery, once behind the wheel, enabling them to get a free pass, unless in Cyprus.
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10-05-2014, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cfos
Oh, again, I apologize. I wasn't aware that cops are taught about the physics of each and every car so that they know "under steer" and can pick it out within the few seconds they have of a car traveling at 55mph+. So glad you told me of this.
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They will pull you over regardless, however, it is fairly disrespectful to assume that cops are not educated on the vehicles they are patrolling. Once they pull you over though, as well as attitude they do take into consideration this risk of you driving at speed in a capable sports car in comparison with something more dangerous. Think of how much more concerned a cop would be if a 2000 intrepid was going 90 with a trailer full of mattresses as apposed to a Boxster traveling the same speed, you may get a ticket regardless but chances are lower in the Boxster.
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10-05-2014, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
They will pull you over regardless, however, it is fairly disrespectful to assume that cops are not educated on the vehicles they are patrolling. Once they pull you over though, as well as attitude they do take into consideration this risk of you driving at speed in a capable sports car in comparison with something more dangerous. Think of how much more concerned a cop would be if a 2000 intrepid was going 90 with a trailer full of mattresses as apposed to a Boxster traveling the same speed, you may get a ticket regardless but chances are lower in the Boxster.
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It's not disrespect; I just think (hope) that the education and training that officers receive focus more on other things than on car knowledge - like being able to spot a potential drunk driver or someone weaving, etc.
I mean, wasn't your point earlier that it is the driver and not the car that earns a ticket. Besides, how did we go from Honda civic to a Intrepid doing 90 while towing while the Porsche remains a Porsche? Did I miss the part about the Honda towing something? And now your suggesting cops should also know/do know the year of a vehicle? Out of curiosity, what ARE the things that we should know about a 2000 intrepid? Is that model year, compared to the others, less capable of doing 90 while towing mattresses?
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10-05-2014, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
They will pull you over regardless, however, it is fairly disrespectful to assume that cops are not educated on the vehicles they are patrolling. Once they pull you over though, as well as attitude they do take into consideration this risk of you driving at speed in a capable sports car in comparison with something more dangerous. Think of how much more concerned a cop would be if a 2000 intrepid was going 90 with a trailer full of mattresses as apposed to a Boxster traveling the same speed, you may get a ticket regardless but chances are lower in the Boxster.
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You have had you license for how many months now?
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10-05-2014, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JayG
You have had you license for how many months now?
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I can't drive after 8 until next month, no hiding of that, however, it does seem I was not clear, I by no means ment that the drivers of these busted up cars or such are less likely to be respectful or anything else, but what I personally have heard is that cops tend to be more lenient based on how much of a threat the vehicle you are In poses to others. A tractor trailer traveling at high speeds is quite a threat to all motorist around, while an accord going the same speed is less threatening to other motorist. Can be the exact same driver or kind of driver between the two cars, in the case I personally had an suv, I would be much more accepting of a ticket in the suv under same conditions and unlawful driving then doing the same in the boxster. However, either way, I am pretty excepting that the law is the law and under no circumstance are you entitled a warning or reduction, however, I would be more expecting of a ticket in the case I was driving an SUV.
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10-05-2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGJake111
I can't drive after 8 until next month, no hiding of that, however, it does seem I was not clear, I by no means ment that the drivers of these busted up cars or such are less likely to be respectful or anything else, but what I personally have heard is that cops tend to be more lenient based on how much of a threat the vehicle you are In poses to others. A tractor trailer traveling at high speeds is quite a threat to all motorist around, while an accord going the same speed is less threatening to other motorist. Can be the exact same driver or kind of driver between the two cars, in the case I personally had an suv, I would be much more accepting of a ticket in the suv under same conditions and unlawful driving then doing the same in the boxster. However, either way, I am pretty excepting that the law is the law and under no circumstance are you entitled a warning or reduction, however, I would be more expecting of a ticket in the case I was driving an SUV.
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Seriously:
http://faculty.washington.edu/heagerty/Courses/b572/public/StrunkWhite.pdf
Your credibility will rise, once you grasp some basics. Also, you use too many qualifiers.
Out of curiosity, what and from whom do you hear things?
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10-05-2014, 08:07 PM
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Word on the forum, at car meets, and from a man with personal experience of being stopped multiple times in a Lamborghini and only ticketed when he had an offense other than speeding.
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10-06-2014, 12:28 PM
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Wow. This thread kinda exploded. For the people concerned with me doing 50 for half a block in a residential area, it wasn't a residential area. For the people concerned with me calling a cop a jerk because I got a ticket, he wasn't a jerk because I got a ticket. He was a jerk for giving me an excuse as to why he had to give me a ticket. If I deserve a ticket, give me a ticket and I'll accept it with a smile on my face and a, "Thank you officer and have a safe day." But maybe that's just me.
Now carry on. I want to hear more about this Intrepid, towing the mattresses.
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10-05-2014, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cfos
Oh, again, I apologize. I wasn't aware that cops are taught about the physics of each and every car so that they know "under steer" and can pick it out within the few seconds they have of a car traveling at 55mph+. So glad you told me of this.
Oh yeah, I guess you also imply that all Porsche owners undergo a rigorous assessment to demonstrate their complete lack of asshattery, once behind the wheel, enabling them to get a free pass, unless in Cyprus.
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If I was a cop and pulled someone over with an attitude like yours - he's getting a ticket no matter what he's driving.
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10-05-2014, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Giller
If I was a cop and pulled someone over with an attitude like yours - he's getting a ticket no matter what he's driving.
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Well, good for you!
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10-05-2014, 05:28 PM
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This conversation is getting a little off topic. It doesn't matter what youre driving, only how youre driving it. And you can say all you want how crappy cars will have people with drugs and warrants in them and occasionally youd be correct, but if you wanted to run a whole bunch of dope and youre a drug lord, would you put a car with busted tail lights and sketchy dudes in it? Nope, they can and will put them in modern lexuses with all kinds of people you'd never expect in them. Theres a thousand things we are looking for when we make traffic stops and there's no guaranteed method of success. Bottom line, if you dont want to be stopped then operate your vehicle in accordance with the law. If I stop you for speed, and thats the only issue and your attitude reflects you have made a mistake and are sorry, for me thats a warning, no matter what you are driving. If youre driving like a jag and you act like one too, doesn't matter what you got stopped for, youve earned the ticket for being disrespectful and wasting my time. A lot of nice people still get speeding tickets. They all knew what they were doing and knew the consequences yet it is always someone's fault not their own when they get the ticket.
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