First ticket

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by jdraupp

... Radar detectors also mean automatic tickets.
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Hit the brakes.... What??? Were you referring only to drivers that were driving WELL ABOVE the flow of traffic?
Unless you're in a state that bans them they are 1000% LEGAL.

A motorist has every right to know when he is being watched.
In fact I wish they sold N SA detectors so I would hook up all my phones to them. And it may surprise but I don't object to being surveilled from either a patrolman or big brother. Both have a job to do and all my friends are cops state and federal. I just want to know when I'm being eye-balled. Why? Because the speed limit is set well below the average speed of traffic nearly every where I travel no matter the jurisdiction. The local police can pop whomever they wish, which in itself creates some "interesting" looking court rooms when I go in to fight a ticket, it looks as subtle as a brick wall when you first enter.

I use a detector and 99.9% of the time everyone else in SUVs and sedans are blowing past me. And although I'm still traveling 5-10 over the limit, it still doesn't make me imune from getting singled out because of whatever opinions that a cop may carry about fancy car drivers. Put it this way I used to drive a lot faster in my Miata than I do in this Porsche and in the same amount of time I was only pulled over a fraction of the times in the Miata vs. the Porsche. In these parts driving a Porsche gets you unsolicitied "police escort" on your tail a lot more often than any previous car I ever had.

[Slate 01]

Put it this way I used to drive a lot faster in my Miata than I do in this Porsche and in the same amount of time I was only pulled over a fraction of the times in the Miata vs. the Porsche. In these parts driving a Porsche gets you unsolicitied "police escort" on your tail a lot more often than any previous car I ever had.

It is enough of a penalty that you are having to be seen driving a Miata apparently. The cops recognize shame and don't want to pile on.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

Hit the brakes.... What??? Were you referring only to drivers that were driving WELL ABOVE the flow of traffic?
Unless you're in a state that bans them they are 1000% LEGAL.

A motorist has every right to know when he is being watched.
In fact I wish they sold N SA detectors so I would hook up all my phones to them. And it may surprise but I don't object to being surveilled from either a patrolman or big brother. Both have a job to do and all my friends are cops state and federal. I just want to know when I'm being eye-balled. Why? Because the speed limit is set well below the average speed of traffic nearly every where I travel no matter the jurisdiction. The local police can pop whomever they wish, which in itself creates some "interesting" looking court rooms when I go in to fight a ticket, it looks as subtle as a brick wall when you first enter.

I use a detector and 99.9% of the time everyone else in SUVs and sedans are blowing past me. And although I'm still traveling 5-10 over the limit, it still doesn't make me imune from getting singled out because of whatever opinions that a cop may carry about fancy car drivers. Put it this way I used to drive a lot faster in my Miata than I do in this Porsche and in the same amount of time I was only pulled over a fraction of the times in the Miata vs. the Porsche. In these parts driving a Porsche gets you unsolicitied "police escort" on your tail a lot more often than any previous car I ever had.

Just make sure you know the laws of the land where you are driving. In most Canadian provinces, Radar Detectors are 1000% illegal. Having one (if detected) is an immediate ticket. And while most states vary on this - there are plenty where it is illegal and you will want to check before doing a cross-country trip or something.
If they aren't illegal, have at 'er!

Better yet - slow down! There are lots of legal ways to drive fast. But going more than a few MPH over the speed limit in a residential area is just dumb. You're putting lives at risk for no reason.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Giller

Better yet - slow down! There are lots of legal ways to drive fast...

I don't think having a radar detector is tantamount to speeding.
This seems to be a popular misconception that I've heard a million times whenever someone sees my Valentine One. "speed demon eh?".
Having a radar detector simply let's you know when you are being monitored.

OTOH, if someone abuses the function of a radar detector they still run the risk of getting caught because few radar detectors can escape lazer detection most of the time. So if I did decide to drive like a A-hole everywhere the radar detector is very far from fool proof. And in some states like Virginia simply doing more than 80 jumps from traffic offense to criminal offense.

[jdraupp]

Perfectlap, let me clarify. If I stop a car for speeding and I see a radar detector, there's no warning being issued. My thought is that they are designed for most people to get them out of tickets. I can beat most radar detectors with some careful I/O instant on radar and have a speed reading before you can hit your brakes. So therefore, if I can still catch you speeding to the point where i'd stop you regardless of what you're driving, and you have a radar detector, I pretty much fogure that it's gotten you out of some tickets in the past so now that I beat it, you get yours.

If you're going 5-10 over you aren't getting a second look from me unless you pass a marked car. Although it is pretty funny when I see them driving around and I hit my radar just to see the driver jump and slam on his brakes.

[Porsche Chick]

Worst ticket I ever got was going 70 in 35 zone. In a Celica.

It wasn't a 35 zone the day before. They had changed it the night before, to prep for construction. Which didn't even start until 6 months later.

And it's really hard to read those speed limit signs when you're going 70.

What I learned; never be at the back of the pack of speeders. Be the driver in the front.

[BIGJake111]

Originally Posted by Porsche Chick

What I learned; never be at the back of the pack of speeders. Be the driver in the front.

I have always heard the opposite, around here we call them bate rednecks. Lifted dodge, in the left lane and no where else plowing at 90 until there is a car, they get right on its tail until it moves then speed back to 90, as long as you send a bait redneck ahead you are pretty well off.


On the topic of radar detectors, I think it is rightful to have one, however, I agree that you are unlikely to get a warning with one which is exactly why I have no interest in one.

[Giller]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I don't think having a radar detector is tantamount to speeding.
This seems to be a popular misconception that I've heard a million times whenever someone sees my Valentine One. "speed demon eh?".
Having a radar detector simply let's you know when you are being monitored.

I didn't say having a radar detector means you are more likely to speed.

And having a radar detector simply to know when you are being monitored....I have to ask...why does it matter? What value is there in knowing someone is trying to utilize a radar gun on you, other than to know you need to slow down? Am I missing something on that point?

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Giller

What value is there in knowing someone is trying to utilize a radar gun on you, other than to know you need to slow down? Am I missing something on that point?

Because it's very rare that anyone at any time is observing the speed limit on any busy road. Even if you are going 5 mph over the limit the police have every right to cite you. It's entirely up to them, and with a radar dectector you know when this goes from hypothetical to actually happening right now.

If the police wanted you to observe the speed limit they would simply set up cameras like they do in Europe. There's no pleading with the cop for a warning ticket because there's no leaving up to the patrolman in the first place. You speed, you get points. Enough points you're suspended. Result: people STFD.

This system that we have here makes it arbitrary, and any regime where enforcement is arbitrary is never as effective if the end goal is reduce vehicular accidents and deaths. Now if the end goal is to raise revenue while complicitly allowing traffic to flow at a rate above what the letter of the law allows, because that's what makes the voter happy, then we end up with this less effective, and some might say cynical, sytem of catch me if you can. As you can see by any major highway everyone ignores 55 or 65, more of a suggestion while carnage ensues. Frankly the police imho should be stopping people for cars that are not properly maintained, running plates of drivers to see if their on suspension. as these are often the cars transporting drugs, weapons, etc. and usually by people with warrants. Obedience to speed limits would be much better served by toll both timing, cameras or some other technology that runs 24/7.

[gmboxster]

In Virginia radar detectors are illegal and if you have one in your car you WILL get ticketed even if you weren't speeding. Just having the detector is a major fine all by itself.

[cfos]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

... And although I'm still traveling 5-10 over the limit, it still doesn't make me imune from getting singled out because of whatever opinions that a cop may carry about fancy car drivers. Put it this way I used to drive a lot faster in my Miata than I do in this Porsche and in the same amount of time I was only pulled over a fraction of the times in the Miata vs. the Porsche. In these parts driving a Porsche gets you unsolicitied "police escort" on your tail a lot more often than any previous car I ever had.

Huh. Never expected this forum to discuss racial profiling, but there yah go!

When there's time, I'd like to see the 986'ers next tackle ISIS/L and what the US response should be, whether or not Israeli/Arab cross populating in non-dominant neighborhoods is an issue, and whether Derek Jeter's fear of cats stems from having(?) owned a Boxster -- all using cars. Same things should apply -- whether or not it's ok to break laws (because we know better than everyone else), how to get around the language of laws, when it is ok to be fined from breaking laws, or pass judgement on how other towns, states, and countries should govern without going to city council meetings or taking an active role in law/policy making, etc.

Rare footage of how I envision PL (?) speaking out about injustices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSWh-I9rM-4

Only kidding. This is not PL, but what did David do?

In the meantime, I think I'll just go shoot guns in my backyard. Don't worry, I'll be responsible and make sure there is no one around before pulling the trigger. I mean, what's a little noise, right? My land. :dance:

'Merica