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BIGJake111 09-16-2014 12:51 PM

Market survey
 
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I made a post in the rennlist general discussion for the sake of better visability, but if anyone wouldn't mind heading over there and taking a survey for me and my marketing partner it would be greatly appreciated :dance:.

ianacole 09-16-2014 01:36 PM

Completed...question #6 threw me for a loop until I started filling it out.

Joe B 09-16-2014 02:06 PM

What do you mean by "for the sake of better viability?"

BIGJake111 09-16-2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe B (Post 418376)
What do you mean by "for the sake of better viability?"

visibility, (terrible wording all together, to reach more people would have been an easier way of saying it.)

BIGJake111 09-16-2014 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianacole (Post 418372)
Completed...question #6 threw me for a loop until I started filling it out.

Thanks for the feedback and thanks for taking it.

kjc2050 09-16-2014 02:47 PM

Please have someone proofread your work, or learn how to spell. I won't bother cataloging all the errors, but will simply point out that the survey title itself features a whopper: "New Buisiness Survey."

I spent the last 30 years in senior level marketing positions, and made a point of never hiring anyone who couldn't spell. How do you expect to write business plans? Proof product literature? Write an email that others won't dismiss because it's poorly written?

Good luck.

BIGJake111 09-16-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc2050 (Post 418384)
Please have someone proofread your work, or learn how to spell. I won't bother cataloging all the errors, but will simply point out that the survey title itself features a whopper: "New Buisiness Survey."

I spent the last 30 years in senior level marketing positions, and made a point of never hiring anyone who couldn't spell. How do you expect to write business plans? Proof product literature? Write an email that others won't dismiss because it's poorly written?

Good luck.


I was told the title would not appear that was supposed to be for my reference, first time using this software , the proposal it self it pretty solid though. However, again the constructive criticism is very well taken, spelling has been an issue for me since I was in fifth grade, my advanced teacher said I over think words, reminds me of our illiterate valedictorian.

cfos 09-16-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 418386)
... it self it ...

What did this advanced teacher say about grammar?

http://static.fastcommerce.com/conte...Stern%2019.jpg

BIGJake111 09-16-2014 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 418401)
What did this advanced teacher say about grammar?

http://static.fastcommerce.com/conte...Stern%2019.jpg


Many of my spelling and grammar issues are caused by the very small iPhone keyboard.

cfos 09-16-2014 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 418407)
Many of my spelling and grammar issues are caused by the very small iPhone keyboard.

http://rs1img.memecdn.com/first-worl...d_o_177072.jpg

So it's the iPhone, huh? That's "... entirely tangible."

:ah:

http://www.lolroflmao.com/wp-content...d-problems.jpg

Should you get to looking up the function of the "edit" tab, also do a search for "accepting-responsibility-for-your-actions-rather-than-assigning-blame". That's probably a better "marketing" (and life) lesson than whatever comes of your marketing "project".

;)

Alfieg23 09-16-2014 05:40 PM

Aw, c'mon guys. Why ain't you given the kidd a brake? ;)

cfos 09-16-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfieg23 (Post 418434)
Aw, c'mon guys. Why ain't you given the kidd a brake? ;)

Oh, hi! You must be new. :p Nice to meet you.

My most recent favorite from Jake:

http://986forum.com/forums/general-discussions/52769-need-opinions-summer-project.html

Although, I have to admit, I'm very curious about the "Retirees with a larger income will be attracted to visit the track while on tour." I'd like to be a retiree with a larger income. How do I do that?

Alfieg23 09-16-2014 05:47 PM

Likewise, I'm sure. :D

TeamOxford 09-16-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfieg23 (Post 418434)
Why ain't you given the kidd a brake? ;)

cfos.........you obviously didn't get the jist of Alfie's post, with the grammatical errors and misspellings. ;)

TO

cfos 09-16-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 418443)
cfos.........you obviously didn't get the jist of Alfie's post, with the grammatical errors and misspellings. ;)

TO

No, I saw them. I was giving him/her a "brake" since I ain't familiar with s/he. Besides, Alfie capitablized and properly used "c'mon". That's trying a little too hard. :cool:

TRACTOR!
http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpres...rry.jpg?w=1000

BIGJake111 09-16-2014 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfieg23 (Post 418434)
Aw, c'mon guys. Why ain't you given the kidd a brake? ;)

Nice, props for this one, roast all you want as long as you do the survey, I need a few more replies. :cheers:

Alfieg23 09-16-2014 07:32 PM

Touche', cfos, well said. In all honesty, BIGJake will be much better served by heeding the well intended advice being given. Making a concerted effort to improve his spelling and grammatical acumen will take him a lot farther than his Boxster ever will. Having spent almost forty years in the corporate world, including numerous years in Management, I can speak from experience in saying that his ability, or inability to properly compose his thoughts in writing may one day dictate how successful he may be in achieving his career aspirations. This is especially true if his position requires him to communicate in writing with clients, prospects and / or the general public. Improperly written communications will almost certainly erode BIGJake's credibility both internally and externally with his employers and clientele.

Tucker2 09-16-2014 08:13 PM

Really? This forum isn't a job interview. Give Dude a break. No biggie. For reference....I've been in IT Mgt for 23 years. Hired and fired more than I can remember. Relax. You're all good BJ111.

Topless 09-16-2014 09:20 PM

I took the survey and I am the target market for these guys.

I find Jake to be pretty entertaining. This entertainment factor receives a turbo boost by the interest CFOS takes in Jake's "development" as a human being :). Yes this is a very different generation coming up and they missed some cues along the way. Didn't we all? A kid that keeps getting repeatedly knocked down but gets back up again every time has a shot I figure. His shot won't look like much like your's or mine but if he keeps swinging, he is likely to make contact at some point.

Determination is a relatively rare trait these days so even if his aim is off a bit at 16, I suspect he will eventually find his mark. Keep swinging Jake! :cheers:

Beer 09-17-2014 04:20 AM

Survey taken, good luck!

BirdDog 09-17-2014 06:18 AM

Survay takin, gud luk Jake!

:)

coreseller 09-17-2014 06:33 AM

Survey also taken. While some may seem to be busting your chops Jake, they do have a point. Not to pile on or anything, but if you want to be perceived as intelligent you must communicate both verbally and orally as such. Good Luck with the project.

jb92563 09-17-2014 06:52 AM

Jake, although the wisdom donations by well meaning folks here is correct, and its intention is to HELP you be a bigger success than the rest, (Could also be normal nit picking if they are of old school German Heritage) I do think they have forgotten what its like to be 16.

Lets see if I can recall what I though about at 16:

- Thinking about girls
- Thinking about social groups and peers
- Thinking about friends
- Thinking about food
- Raging hormones
- Dreaming of girls
- Chores
- Thinking about Money
- Cars, (The Porsche)
- Girls
- Sports
- Thinking about the dance
- Homework
- Girls
...

I don't ever recall worrying about spelling even though my grades reflected my lack of skill with it on occasion.

Jake has another 5 years of schooling ahead if he goes to college (Of course he will) to sort out his future career and spelling issues.

I'd cut him some slack so that he doesn't come back at us and start asking why we are always obsessing over Porsches and spelling but NOT girls. :D

BIGJake111 09-17-2014 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb92563 (Post 418513)
Jake, although the wisdom donations by well meaning folks here is correct, and its intention is to HELP you be a bigger success than the rest, (Could also be normal nit picking if they are of old school German Heritage) I do think they have forgotten what its like to be 16.

Lets see if I can recall what I though about at 16:

- Thinking about girls
- Thinking about social groups and peers
- Thinking about friends
- Thinking about food
- Raging hormones
- Dreaming of girls
- Chores
- Thinking about Money
- Cars, (The Porsche)
- Girls
- Sports
- Thinking about the dance
- Homework
- Girls
...

I don't ever recall worrying about spelling even though my grades reflected my lack of skill with it on occasion.

Jake has another 5 years of schooling ahead if he goes to college (Of course he will) to sort out his future career and spelling issues.

I'd cut him some slack so that he doesn't come back at us and start asking why we are always obsessing over Porsches and spelling but NOT girls. :D

The funny thing is, if anything helps your spelling it is the girls, you should've seen my spelling and grammar before I had someone to impress. All points are well taken though, my spelling is an issue. However, if you look at some of my early posts (please don't) it has improved and continues to do so.

Thanks to all who took the survey, most groups are doing simple restaurants and such but me and my partner chose to seek some thing we are actually passionate about, this left us with a difficult target market to reach though, thanks all!

78F350 09-17-2014 12:12 PM

One question: If I get a timeshare garage, will it come with a lift and tools?

BIGJake111 09-17-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 78F350 (Post 418547)
One question: If I get a timeshare garage, will it come with a lift and tools?


Community lifts will be available, and general tools will be provided with each garage.

cfos 09-17-2014 05:47 PM

Though it (I) may seem preachy, I do appreciate his attitude (generally) towards the critique -- which is well intended, even if it is pretty deprecating. However, generation gaps aside, one shouldn't make excuses and look for places to blame rather than accepting it. I fear the accessibility provided by the internet has seriously affected one's ability to think, delayed discounting theories aside.

Anyway, though not German, I do recall being 16 and while I can relate to some of jb's list, what I find missing is "working" and "getting a job".

fab986 09-17-2014 06:41 PM

Survey taken, there's definetely a bug with question #6.

BIGJake111 09-17-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fab986 (Post 418617)
Survey taken, there's definetely a bug with question #6.

Thank you for the feedback, I noticed myself that the mark all that apply question is only allowing one answer :matchup:. A free resource can only be as good as a free resource can be, but my partner and mys wording was unclear on six as well. However, I do not believe that six has a bug, when you select say 3 next to one it moves it down to the third position, pushing the previous 2 and 3 up to 1 and 2. Takes some getting used to and the wording is misleading regardless, again though, thank you for the feedback!

kjc2050 09-18-2014 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 418619)
Thank you for the feedback, I noticed myself that the mark all that apply question is only allowing one answer :matchup:. A free resource can only be as good as a free resource can be, but my partner and mys wording was unclear on six as well. However, I do not believe that six has a bug, when you select say 3 next to one it moves it down to the third position, pushing the previous 2 and 3 up to 1 and 2. Takes some getting used to and the wording is misleading regardless, again though, thank you for the feedback!

It's me again - the marketing guy who started the conversation about your writing. I've used SurveyMonkey for years. The issue you're encountering isn't a bug. It reflects the choices you made when you set up your survey.

The next time you create a survey, have a few people take it before launching it; doing so will enable you tweak/improve it before launch. SurveyMonkey enables you to clear those test responses prior to launch.

And by the way: "...my partner and MYS wording..." OUCH!

BIGJake111 09-18-2014 03:01 AM

Market survey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kjc2050 (Post 418635)
It's me again - the marketing guy who started the conversation about your writing. I've used SurveyMonkey for years. The issue you're encountering isn't a bug. It reflects the choices you made when you set up your survey.



The next time you create a survey, have a few people take it before launching it; doing so will enable you tweak/improve it before launch. SurveyMonkey enables you to clear those test responses prior to launch.



And by the way: "...my partner and MYS wording..." OUCH!


Thank you, it is my first time using the software, I spent about 2 minuets debating on how to word that one sentence, the partner coming first of course, and it being my as apposed to I. However knowing that if it was just the partner it would be possessive I was left confused and went with what felt most natural.

cfos 09-18-2014 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 418636)
Thank you, it is my first time using the software, I spent about 2 minuets debating on how to word that one sentence, the partner coming first of course, and it being my as apposed to I. However knowing that if it was just the partner it would be possessive I was left confused and went with what felt most natural.

Uh... How long did it take for these two? Maybe I'm nitpicking, but I don't think I could come up with this word combination if given 2 hours. For reference, how should we interpret your "2 minuets"? Is that a substantial measure of time? If not, it really doesn't speak to your work effort - I mean, why should one waste their time on something you devoted so little time to?

"... the partner coming first of course..." Of course? I really have no idea what this phrase means nor can I comprehend, "... and it being my apposed to I."

Just say these phrases aloud. Really.

As for that second sentence... Whoa. "Darmack and Jalad at Tanagra."

RedTele58 09-18-2014 05:46 PM

Survey complete.

Keep after it Jake - just keep working on it. Don't let the crows sitting on the fence get you down with their cackling.

I don't remember a whole lot of my peers at 16 being perfect - and none of them drove a speed yellow S car! :cheers:

Rick


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