06-14-2014, 10:48 AM
|
#1
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sactown
Posts: 18
|
I found a 2010 S within my price range. The car was in an accident. The owner rear ended another car, but it doesn't have a salvaged title. Other than that, it looks good. It is one owner, from a dry climate, and has all service records.
What do you think? I can talk to his dealer to find out more about the car. Otherwise, The only way I can get into a 987.2 would be a base model.
|
|
|
06-14-2014, 11:28 AM
|
#2
|
recycledsixtie
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Edmonton Canada
Posts: 824
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ByteSaidFred
I found a 2010 S within my price range. The car was in an accident. The owner rear ended another car, but it doesn't have a salvaged title. Other than that, it looks good. It is one owner, from a dry climate, and has all service records.
What do you think? I can talk to his dealer to find out more about the car. Otherwise, The only way I can get into a 987.2 would be a base model.
|
As the above Perfectlap says take your time. I would not look at a car that had a serious accident. Don't forget that if you bought it and later tried to sell it then the accident history does not bode well for resale. For me no.
There should be others out there that are accident free. Take your time. PPI etc.
Cheers, Guy.
|
|
|
06-14-2014, 12:05 PM
|
#3
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Greenville, S.C.
Posts: 2,670
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ByteSaidFred
I found a 2010 S within my price range. The car was in an accident. The owner rear ended another car, but it doesn't have a salvaged title. Other than that, it looks good. It is one owner, from a dry climate, and has all service records.
What do you think? I can talk to his dealer to find out more about the car. Otherwise, The only way I can get into a 987.2 would be a base model.
|
That all depends on what resale means to you.
|
|
|
06-14-2014, 08:34 PM
|
#4
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sactown
Posts: 18
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGJake111
That all depends on what resale means to you.
|
Good point. I don't plan on selling any time soon, but you never know. In any case, I found a 2010 S I could stretch to purchase. Is a 2010 (<20K miles) worth $10K more than a 2007 S (<40K miles)?
I'd much rather get the 2007 to save the $10K, but it's hard for me to follow the IMS issues. How big of a risk is a 2007 S?
|
|
|
06-15-2014, 04:48 AM
|
#5
|
recycledsixtie
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Edmonton Canada
Posts: 824
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ByteSaidFred
Good point. I don't plan on selling any time soon, but you never know. In any case, I found a 2010 S I could stretch to purchase. Is a 2010 (<20K miles) worth $10K more than a 2007 S (<40K miles)?
I'd much rather get the 2007 to save the $10K, but it's hard for me to follow the IMS issues. How big of a risk is a 2007 S?
|
A 2010 does not have the ims but a 2007 does. Is it worth $10k more? I would say so but if money is an issue then the 2007 makes sense. Any which way you look at it it is still a Porsche and you will still likely have niggling problems as I do with my 2001 Box base but I would think the newer the better.
For me I plan on $2k a year for repairs done by my indy shop.
Cheers, Guy.
|
|
|
06-15-2014, 05:50 AM
|
#6
|
Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Greenville, S.C.
Posts: 2,670
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ByteSaidFred
Good point. I don't plan on selling any time soon, but you never know. In any case, I found a 2010 S I could stretch to purchase. Is a 2010 (<20K miles) worth $10K more than a 2007 S (<40K miles)?
I'd much rather get the 2007 to save the $10K, but it's hard for me to follow the IMS issues. How big of a risk is a 2007 S?
|
Ims Is fairly unlikely on 05 and newer cars, however the 09 is worth more based on the better engine and such, outside of ims the 09 is just a better car. But I would highly suggest an S regardless and personally would get a really low mile clean 04 or 03 S, budget for the ims and the car will depreciate much less than a newer one.
|
|
|
06-15-2014, 07:10 AM
|
#7
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Sactown
Posts: 18
|
I understand the 09-11 are nicer, but the 2007 is nice enough for me :-) The conversation will go a lot easier with 'the boss' if I keep it under $30K. You have to love those psychological barriers. I drove a local 2007 S from an independent dealer yesterday. I loved it, but the dealer was not flexible at all on price. He wanted $37K for a 2007 S with 67K miles.
If the consensus is that the IMS is low risk on the 2007, I'll be looking to pick up a <40K mile 2007 for ~$30K. 2009-2010's are around $40K.
|
|
|
06-15-2014, 07:42 AM
|
#8
|
On the slippery slope
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Austin and Palm Springs
Posts: 3,799
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ByteSaidFred
I understand the 09-11 are nicer, but the 2007 is nice enough for me :-) The conversation will go a lot easier with 'the boss' if I keep it under $30K. You have to love those psychological barriers. I drove a local 2007 S from an independent dealer yesterday. I loved it, but the dealer was not flexible at all on price. He wanted $37K for a 2007 S with 67K miles.
If the consensus is that the IMS is low risk on the 2007, I'll be looking to pick up a <40K mile 2007 for ~$30K. 2009-2010's are around $40K.
|
IMHO the IMS is a low risk in older 986's as well. Don't lose sleep over it.
Yes, there are some that are all doom and gloom, but the vast majority of M96 engines had had no IMS issue. They are probably more with over 100K without any IMS issue than the total that have had IMS issues.
Can there be a problem, sure. Will it happen on all engines, NO, even a large percentage, probably not.
You can always have it replaced when the clutch is done and then it is a much lower cost as you have to pull the tranny to replace the IMS, same as doing the clutch.
I have an 04 with 60k and will I replace the IMS, most likely when I do the clutch. I drive the car, it is not a garage queen and I drive some back roads at least once a week giving it some high revs. As my DD, I keep it below 3k until its warmed up and then it gets higher revs as well. Its a lot of fun doing freeway ramps and shifting at 6-7k. Top of the ramp in 3rd near triple digits.
Find a car you like and enjoy it. If you are going to worry about what could/might happen and servicing the car and maybe spending a few $$ annually, buy a S2000 or 370z
__________________
2004 Boxster S 6 speed - DRL relay hack, Polaris AutoTop DIY
2004 996 Targa Tip
Instructor - San Diego region
2014 Porsche Performance Driving School
2020 BMW X3, 2013 Ram 1500, 2016 Cmax, 2004 F-150 "Big Red"
Last edited by JayG; 06-15-2014 at 09:16 AM.
|
|
|
06-15-2014, 10:10 AM
|
#9
|
recycledsixtie
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Edmonton Canada
Posts: 824
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayG
IMHO the IMS is a low risk in older 986's as well. Don't lose sleep over it.
Yes, there are some that are all doom and gloom, but the vast majority of M96 engines had had no IMS issue. They are probably more with over 100K without any IMS issue than the total that have had IMS issues.
Can there be a problem, sure. Will it happen on all engines, NO, even a large percentage, probably not.
You can always have it replaced when the clutch is done and then it is a much lower cost as you have to pull the tranny to replace the IMS, same as doing the clutch.
I have an 04 with 60k and will I replace the IMS, most likely when I do the clutch. I drive the car, it is not a garage queen and I drive some back roads at least once a week giving it some high revs. As my DD, I keep it below 3k until its warmed up and then it gets higher revs as well. Its a lot of fun doing freeway ramps and shifting at 6-7k. Top of the ramp in 3rd near triple digits.
Find a car you like and enjoy it. If you are going to worry about what could/might happen and servicing the car and maybe spending a few $$ annually, buy a S2000 or 370z
|
All valid points from Jay. I had been thinking about selling my 2001 Box base but I believe that I would miss it so am thinking of keeping it and getting a small suv. I think that it is important for me to not overextend myself financially so will keep the old Box and have the suv for winter. As opposed to having a newer Box/Cayman and driving it year round.
The other thing is I did not notice much performance difference between my 2001 and a 2007 Boxster base. 217 hp vs 240.
Cheers, Guy.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:13 AM.
| |