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Old 06-09-2014, 09:15 AM   #1
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What a load of nonsense .
That's like saying an electronic throttle is to blame and we should go back to throttle cables .
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It's automatic. The software is actually changing the gear, not a direct hand-on-gear lever-to-trans interplay. The software will even allow you to mess up a down/up change to make you think you're doing the actual gear shift. It's either a mechanical transmission, where the driver does the physical shift, or its HAL doing the shifting which makes it an automatic. Or in the case of PDK a sporty automatic. It's also part of the reason why racing is so boring and so few drivers can overtake (cleanly) anymore.
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:57 AM   #2
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What a load of nonsense .
That's like saying an electronic throttle is to blame and we should go back to throttle cables .


A manual transmission is a very simple concept. It is or it isn't.
Either the driver is moving the gear or the car is doing it (i.e. automatic).

And partly why the 997 GT3's will be some of the most sought after in a few short years. It also helps that they don't catch fire.


If you were referencing racing, some things have indeed progressed in the name of safety even if it meant losing some control over the car. But at the end of the day driver skill comes down to throttle, brake, gear lever and steering wheel. If you're cutting into those for reasons other than safety, you are watering down the traditional driver skill set that has existed for decades. Either to allow the computer to produce a faster lap time or to protect the driver from his own equipment destroying, position losing errors.
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Old 06-09-2014, 11:14 AM   #3
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to blame for what?

A manual transmission is a very simple concept. It is or it isn't.
The sport automatic gearbox it is slowly killing the traditional/manual gearboxes, they are faster, accurate, in sync, and smarter than the driver The only bit you lose is the clutch feel but that was replaced by a "launch control" if I'm not mistaken

In that context, it does makes the manual gearbox look like a very simple concept, yes lol
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With all the electronic additions to the Porsche line (now fake burbling too lol), I'm truly liking my air cooled 911 more and more...............

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