| 
        | 
 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 11:59 AM | #1 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Louisiana 
					Posts: 108
				      | 
				
				over-revved 4th to 3rd. how bad
			 
 
			Was trying to catch up to my friends and while doing so. Instead of grabbing 5th grabved 3rd and overrevved. What should I do? I'm 300 miles from home on spring break 
I hope my motor won't grenade on me at all, especially on my way home.
				__________________01  Boxster S BlacK/Black 6 speed (Totaled: Engine, Trans, and ECU Salvaged)
 
 2001 boxster S Grey/Grey 6 Speed ( not stock and don't know whats been done to it)
 Speed doesn't kill, It's the sudden stop that does.
 
				 Last edited by mustang2porsche; 04-20-2014 at 12:04 PM.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:04 PM | #2 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL 
					Posts: 4,144
				      | 
			How close to redline in 4th were you before making the shift to third? How long did it take to make the shift and how long did you stay in 3rd?
 Are you sure that you exceeded redline when you went to third?
 
 Best case: you may be totally fine.
 
 If you can find someone with a durametric you can quickly see if you had a type 2 overrev. Check pcarshops to see if there is a shop nearby and maybe they can help you check it.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:14 PM | #3 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Louisiana 
					Posts: 108
				      | 
			I was at redline in 4th before goib into third, second I felt the overrev I clutched in and went to six.  I'm 200 miles now from home and its sunday so I'm S.O L right now.
		 
				__________________01  Boxster S BlacK/Black 6 speed (Totaled: Engine, Trans, and ECU Salvaged)
 
 2001 boxster S Grey/Grey 6 Speed ( not stock and don't know whats been done to it)
 Speed doesn't kill, It's the sudden stop that does.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:17 PM | #4 |  
	| Certified Boxster Addict 
				 
				Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles 
					Posts: 7,669
				      | 
			I did the same thing at the racetrack a couple of months ago. I momentarily saw ~7500 on the tach as I let the clutch out. Got the clutch back in, rev's came back down, and made the correct shift. 
 Then I cussed at myself inside my helmet for the next three laps. Out loud.
 
 Then I realized that there isn't much you can do about it. What's done is done. Obviously its not "good" for the engine and I am careful not to repeat, but as long as the engine keeps running fine then it seems that I dodged the bullet.
 
 Only you can deicide if you want to drive it. I did and everything has been fine but your mileage may vary.
 
				__________________1999 996 C2 - sold - bought back - sold for more
 1997 Spec Boxster BSR #254
 1979 911 SC
 POC Licensed DE/TT Instructor
 
				 Last edited by thstone; 04-20-2014 at 12:21 PM.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:21 PM | #5 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: San Jose, CA 
					Posts: 583
				      | 
			
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by thstone  I did the same thing at the racetrack a couple of months ago. I momentarily saw ~7500 on the tach as I let the clutch out. Got the clutch back in, rev's came back down, and made the correct shift. 
 Then I cussed at myself inside my helmet for the next three laps. Out loud.
 
 Then I realized that there isn't much you can do about it. What's done is done. Obviously its not "good" for the engine and I am careful not to repeat, but as long as the engine keeps running fine then it seems that I dodged the bullet.
 |  
Good advice. Anyone who tracks their car has likely done this.  Happens...
		 
				__________________2000 S - Borla Exhaust, TS Cat Deletes, RSS UDP, B&M Short Shift, T96 Steering Wheel, Potenza RE-71R's,
 Mantis 2.0L Deep Sump, de-snorkeled, Bilstein PSS9 Coil-Overs, Rennline lug studs, and auto crossed regularly.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:25 PM | #6 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Louisiana 
					Posts: 108
				      | 
			Got a point, this may bother me for a while, bit I'm still rolling down I-10  so I guessing I'm good for now.
		 
				__________________01  Boxster S BlacK/Black 6 speed (Totaled: Engine, Trans, and ECU Salvaged)
 
 2001 boxster S Grey/Grey 6 Speed ( not stock and don't know whats been done to it)
 Speed doesn't kill, It's the sudden stop that does.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:38 PM | #7 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Greenville, S.C. 
					Posts: 2,670
				      | 
			Haven't you had this problem before? Maybe it's time for a tip, I kid I kid. But hey I'm glad I have my tiptronic, it has protected me from a downshift or two haha.
 
 Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:46 PM | #8 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Jackson Hole, Wyoming 
					Posts: 800
				      | 
			What you can do: drive it   ! You can't un-over rev it, and as long as it didn't blow up, forget about it (but don't do it again   ).
"But hey I'm glad I have my tiptronic"   Well, there's one good thing about an automatic transmission.
		
				 Last edited by Joe B; 04-20-2014 at 12:48 PM.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 12:48 PM | #9 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Louisiana 
					Posts: 108
				      | 
			My last problem I fixed witg good advice, this was  just a mistake and I saw 8000 rpms and I really freaked. But she didn't blow and I'm 2 hours from home.
		 
				__________________01  Boxster S BlacK/Black 6 speed (Totaled: Engine, Trans, and ECU Salvaged)
 
 2001 boxster S Grey/Grey 6 Speed ( not stock and don't know whats been done to it)
 Speed doesn't kill, It's the sudden stop that does.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 01:35 PM | #10 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Chicago 
					Posts: 329
				      | 
			bent valves?
		 
				__________________'99 Porsche Boxster 986 - weekend car
 '04 BMW 645ci e63 - daily driver
 '98 BMW 528i e39 - dog carrier
 
 
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 01:40 PM | #11 |  
	| Beginner 
				 
				Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Houston 
					Posts: 1,659
				      | 
			Chalk it up to experience, learn from it, and move on.
		 
				__________________2003 S manual
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 02:17 PM | #12 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Canada 
					Posts: 3,150
				      | 
			if you are feeling eager you can pull the oil filter and check for metal. could be done on the side of the road - you only loose a bit of oil. i did a second to first instead of third on the track once myself. wheels locked and i went sideways. live by the sword ...
		 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 03:50 PM | #13 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL 
					Posts: 4,144
				      | 
			In the late 80's I was downshifting my fiat x1/9 from 4th to 3rd and accidentally got 1st. Locked up the rear wheels for a second before I got the clutch back in... Turned out to be fine thankfully but got my heart racing...
		 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 05:12 PM | #14 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: May 2008 Location: Newport, KY 
					Posts: 202
				      | 
 
			I thought these cars had a rev limiter to keep you from pushing it too far????
		 
				__________________Greg
 2002 Triple Black, Desnorkled, Bumper Plugs, LN IMSB Upgrade
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 05:39 PM | #15 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: FL 
					Posts: 4,144
				      | 
			When are downshifting it is the force from the wheels up through the drive train that forces the engine to overrev. This type of overrev is called a mechanical overrev. The rev limiter  just cuts the fuel to the engine when you are pressing the gas and accelerating and that's how it keeps you from overrevving.
		 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 05:41 PM | #16 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: May 2008 Location: Newport, KY 
					Posts: 202
				      | 
			Makes sense, thanks
		 
				__________________Greg
 2002 Triple Black, Desnorkled, Bumper Plugs, LN IMSB Upgrade
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 05:45 PM | #17 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Colorado 
					Posts: 442
				      | 
				
				over revving
			 
 
			I can't believe the depth of lack of genuine mechanical knowledge on here. Geeze. Your engine is probably fine if there is no knocking or any other new sounds. Someone suggested bent valves? Really? Why? The fixed and adjustable timing should prevent that. Have you ever over revved any of your other non sports/performance cars? Do you think Porsche REALLY put the red line right where you could injure the engine? Sorry, I'm just dumb struck with some of the SOL, did I hurt it, etc... questions about these cars. If they are that easily damaged, then they are crap. But, I don't that that is the case. I suspect the guys at  the track push it over the limits regularly and those engines are the ones that are proclaimed to last the longest. I apologize for ranting, it just feels like we are talking about over revving a Ford Pinto or something inferior. WHat kind of sports car should put someone to walking on egg shells? If its that bad go trade your porsche for a honda civic. You can't hardly hurt those engines not matter the neglect.:troll:CHeers!
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 06:40 PM | #18 |  
	| I am my own mechanic.... 
				 
				Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Salt Lake City, UT 
					Posts: 3,432
				      | 
			
	Quote: 
	
		| 
					Originally Posted by jdlmodelt  I can't believe the depth of lack of genuine mechanical knowledge on here. Geeze. Your engine is probably fine if there is no knocking or any other new sounds. Someone suggested bent valves? Really? Why? The fixed and adjustable timing should prevent that. Have you ever over revved any of your other non sports/performance cars? Do you think Porsche REALLY put the red line right where you could injure the engine? Sorry, I'm just dumb struck with some of the SOL, did I hurt it, etc... questions about these cars. If they are that easily damaged, then they are crap. But, I don't that that is the case. I suspect the guys at  the track push it over the limits regularly and those engines are the ones that are proclaimed to last the longest. I apologize for ranting, it just feels like we are talking about over revving a Ford Pinto or something inferior. WHat kind of sports car should put someone to walking on egg shells? If its that bad go trade your porsche for a honda civic. You can't hardly hurt those engines not matter the neglect.:troll:CHeers!
 |  
I personally don't know the ins and outs of vario-fixed 5 chain OHC timing or whatever it's called, but do a lot of my own work. If I mechanically over-revved I would certainly be in here asking what potential damage I may have caused. Would you buy a over-revved car? How many over-revs are too many? Would you use that to get a lower price? Seems like a more reasonable question than which nearly identical oil to use...
		 
				__________________'04 Boxster S 50 Jahre 550 Spyder Anniversary Special Edition, 851 of 1953, 6-sp, IMS/RMS, GT Metallic silver, cocoa brown leather SOLD to member Broken Linkage.
 '08 VW Touareg T-3 wife's car
 '13 F150 Super Crew long bed 4x4 w/ Ego Boost
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-20-2014, 06:53 PM | #19 |  
	| Engine Surgeon 
				 
				Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cleveland GA USA 
					Posts: 2,425
				      | 
			Query the ECU to see how many ignitions you saw and at what range. Report back and I'll share with you what I normally see from those durations spent at those ranges. Stretched timing chains and rod bolts are the most common from these experiences.
 Does the car have a short shift kit installed? We call those economic stimulant kits here..
 
				__________________Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
 IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
 US Patent 8,992,089 &
 US Patent 9,416,697
 Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
		|  04-21-2014, 01:41 AM | #20 |  
	| Registered User 
				 
				Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Montreal, QC. (currently expat to Shanghai) 
					Posts: 3,249
				      | 
			All the best of luck OP. 
I love my little F1 retrofitted paddled 986. I can dwshift right down to the 1st gear @100mph and the tiptronic won't do anything until its mgt system agrees it is safe to do so    
Any Road Circuit killer lol
    
 
				________________________________________________
 '97 Boxster base model 2.5L, Guards Red/Tan leather, with a new but old Alpine am/fm radio.
 |  
	|   |   |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	| 
	|  Posting Rules |  
	| 
		
		You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts 
 HTML code is On 
 |  |  |  All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:37 AM. 
	
	
		
	
	
 |  |