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jb92563 04-16-2014 11:32 AM

I would think that Fiat would want to buy his car so they can learn how to improve their own product line. :p

Wouldn't the Lemon laws protect a buyer from this in-humane torture, or does that only apply to yellow cars or people that speak American.:eek:

I don't understand how he can keep from going postal.
The Brit in him must be allowing his extreme restraint although he did drop a few F-bombs here and there which means that he is awfully close to the tipping point.

For gods sake Porsche help this poor soul before its too late.

I'll bet the stealership lets him eat all the cookies he wants without even raising an eye-brow.:D

BIGJake111 04-16-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 395972)
Cayenne owners would like a word with you.


All other Porsche models record far less mileage than the competing luxury cars typically found in the top JD Power rankings.
The Cayenne (the only real 'daily' Porsche) owner experience is not winning any awards...

In comparison to a camry that commutes every day, yes the porsche gets less miles. But a 911 turbo owner is much more likely to drive it daily than an avnetador owner.
Panameras are driven on a daily basis. Many of the boxster owners here drive their cars daily, then again as i say this mine hasnt been out since last thursday haha.

Perfectlap 04-16-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGJake111 (Post 395975)
In comparison to a camry that commutes every day, yes the porsche gets less miles. But a 911 turbo owner is much more likely to drive it daily than an avnetador owner.
Panameras are driven on a daily basis. Many of the boxster owners here drive their cars daily, then again as i say this mine hasnt been out since last thursday haha.

for daily driving, comparing a mass production luxury car like a Porsche to far more expensive exotics is apples to oranges. The latter are less like transportation and more like trophies.

Relative to their total, and surging, production numbers, very few 911's, Boxster/Cayman are driven daily. The Lexus equivalent on daily usage would be be the Panamera and Cayenne, and not surprisingly account for more than half of all of Porsche sales. And after all, Porsche went to the Japanese to figure out how to mass produce reliable cars without nearly going bankrupt again. Which VW will rubbish very soon, well at least the reliable part, the profitability via over-pricing they've nailed.

p.s.
Anyone notice that 991 owner has gotten progressively angrier and sarcastic with each new video?
Man I'll stick with my hooptie.

jdraupp 04-16-2014 12:11 PM

If this was my car, I would be on the news. And not in a good way either.

trimer 04-16-2014 12:14 PM

I have a Honda 2007 that is mass produced and is my daily. So far in 80000 miles...had to replace an oring on the air con. Paid 24000 in 2007 with leather, dual tip exhaust and 245 horse motor. Now, my wife had a Lexus SUV...no problem. Camry and Nissan before Honda no problem. My Porsches - ridiculous issues. IMS this, waterpump that. AOS what and blah blah blah.

This dude should be pissed. That car was expensive. And it should be taken care of by Porsche. Love my pcars...but come on!

Jake Raby 04-16-2014 12:26 PM

Sadly I bet that most of these issue have stemmed from failed intervention along the way. Treating symptoms rather than an underlying condition.
Or you can just throw parts at it, and let a computer tell you how to think.

WhipE350 04-16-2014 01:15 PM

What ever happen to lemon laws. Maybe I should find his other videos and see if he talks about it.

thstone 04-16-2014 03:00 PM

Porsche is now just another gigantic corporation and as such, I am not surprised at their actions. This fellow is just one of a planned 200,000 sales in 2014 and if Porsche loses him, it won't hurt at all.

More so, history has shown the Porsche brand/reputation to be invincible; nothing impugns their reputation or hurts future sales. Not water cooled engines, large SUV's, sedans, crossovers, etc. And certainly not poor customer service.

Perfectlap 04-16-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thstone (Post 396010)
Porsche is now just another gigantic corporation and as such, I am not surprised at their actions. This fellow is just one of a planned 200,000 sales in 2014 and if Porsche loses him, it won't hurt at all.

More so, history has shown the Porsche brand/reputation to be invincible; nothing impugns their reputation or hurts future sales. Not water cooled engines, large SUV's, sedans, crossovers, etc. And certainly not poor customer service.

Famous last words. Was that circa 1998?

When Porsche barely sold 1,200 of the 'legendary' Carreras in all of NA? During the greatest post-war bull market the U.S. had ever seen? When the top 1% were buying two of everything in each color and zee Porsche brand still manages to get itself on the brink of bankruptcy on account of no consumer interest in buying Porsches?

If that could happen in a rocket economy just imagine what could happen in a really lousy one.... because each new "financial collapse" will be worse than the last. It's like Tommy Lee Jones said in that one movie "It's the tide, the dismal tide. It's not the one thing." Just wait for a perfect storm of nightmare financial collapse coupled with a generation of customers that don't know Steve McQueen from Steve Harvey. As it is now most Porsche owners had no intention of buying a Carrera or Boxster/Cayman when they stepped foot in the dealer! They came for the SUV that they cross shopped with the Range Rover. To you and I the brand has history. To the typical Porsche buyer today, it's just another luxury badge. And a certain flavor of luxury can fall out of favor in a snap. Just put VW in charge for a while...

coreseller 04-16-2014 04:30 PM

How terrifying will it be in a few years for the poor guys who catch "Deals" on 5 to 7 year old P-Cars just out of warranty with all the new gizmos and PDK's starting to age and crap out?

RedTele58 04-16-2014 04:31 PM

Man - all those electrical problems, I thought he was driving a 928! :D

The Radium King 04-16-2014 04:46 PM

i think only half the story is getting told here. i haven't watched the other videos, but if it's true that he's hacked in a bunch of other electronic devices then he's lucky pcna is even honouring his warranty with respect to electrical issues. even the water in is car could be due to shoddy aftermarket wire routing. he's most likely the cause of all his own problems, as is evinced by the fact that his only recourse appears to be youtube videos that don't, apparently, tell the whole story.

what is more shocking to me is that an electrical problem (regardless of cause) can kill the engine and lock-up the transmission. that's recall stuff in the order of toyota - all it'll take is someone getting killed.

Jake Raby 04-16-2014 04:58 PM

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My money says this loose ground lug is his ailment.. It would cause those issue when the conditions that he has encountered present themselves.

trimer 04-16-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WhipE350 (Post 395992)
What ever happen to lemon laws. Maybe I should find his other videos and see if he talks about it.

If I'm not mistaken I think lemon law has to be same problem 3 times...not various problems?

Mark_T 04-16-2014 05:07 PM

Well, at least some kids haven't tipped it over. That would be horrible. Especially if he's not in Texas.

Ranfurly66 04-16-2014 05:12 PM

Random comment - I think he's a Kiwi. Has to be a good guy!! :)

The problem with lots of tech is that these cars will get devalued on the basis of the cost of replacement electronic parts - 10 years old and you're spending a couple of grand a time to swap out broken electronics because they don't repair and have to replace.

It'll start to make keeping these Porsche's cost prohibitive when they're 10 to 15 years old. But you get the feeling Porsche no longer make cars to last in the same way they did.

Timco 04-16-2014 05:38 PM

Now, my friends, is the time to buy a good used 911, before all used ones are PDK era and newer...the real enthusiasts will know. Just try to find a used 328 GTB.

wawa 04-16-2014 06:21 PM

Gosh! my 981 is due june 27. Hope I wont have these sort of problem!

Cant wait to finaly take delivery :)

later
wawa

BIGJake111 04-16-2014 06:48 PM

As I said people are wrong about our cars being the beginning of a new Porsche, our cars are the last of the greats. But this makes me wonder, how is a tesla gonna be 15 years down the road. But if I was porsche, considering their profits I would drop this guy a 911 turbo, tell him to enjoy it and leave the problem done with, make a negative. Positive. Giving away a 911 turbo is cheap advertising!


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Ckrikos 04-16-2014 07:53 PM

Time will tell. I'm hoping my mezger engine porsche appreciates like the 993's.


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