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scottvd 02-04-2014 08:31 AM

Quick stock oil filter question
 
I'm doing my first oil change and I'm adding the LN spin on oil filter adapter - I don't have the specialty wrench to remove the stock oil filter housing and obviously don't want to purchase it just for one removal. Is there another way to get that thing off, not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

healthservices 02-04-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384584)
not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

Short answer... yes

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384584)
I'm doing my first oil change and I'm adding the LN spin on oil filter adapter - I don't have the specialty wrench to remove the stock oil filter housing and obviously don't want to purchase it just for one removal. Is there another way to get that thing off, not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

That tool is a very bad idea, you will crack the reusable plastic housing. This is what you need:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...0,160,0,T_.jpg

scottvd 02-04-2014 08:38 AM

Wow, quick replies - thanks. Ok, looking for possible not desirable so I'll give it a shot, looking forward to the potential colossal mess! (:

steved0x 02-04-2014 09:35 AM

This is the one I have:
Lisle 61570 76mm 14-Flute End Cap Wrench Set : Amazon.com : Automotive

I have seen that same size from walmart, and it has also fit a couple of other vehicles I have done.

Steve

recycledsixtie 02-04-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA (Post 384587)
That tool is a very bad idea, you will crack the reusable plastic housing. This is what you need:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...0,160,0,T_.jpg

+1 on this. You can get it from Pelican Parts. Careful you don't overtorque the plastic filter housing when you put it back on. Also note the position of the rubber/plastic o ring when you take the filter housing off. Last time I did it I put the o ring at the very top - not the correct position and after retightening it it got squeezed and lost enough oil to show on the driveway when I was driving away.

Careful also about using the correct torque when tightening the drain plug. If you don't have Wayne Dempsey's 101 Projects for your Porsche Boxster, you should get it and it is cheap at $30. First oil change is messy, 2nd not much and the 3rd I expect perfection from myself.

Cheers, Guy

TRPLBLK04 02-04-2014 12:12 PM

He's installing the LN adaptor, therefore not re-using plastic housing. Autozone carries the wrench if you dont wanna damage plastic housing. Otherwise...ChannelLocks

thstone 02-04-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384584)
I'm doing my first oil change and I'm adding the LN spin on oil filter adapter - I don't have the specialty wrench to remove the stock oil filter housing and obviously don't want to purchase it just for one removal. Is there another way to get that thing off, not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

Another short answer: Yes. If it doesn't work, then borrow the correct tool from a local friend for the one time removal.

woodsman 02-04-2014 12:18 PM

also be ready for 8.75 L or about 9 qt to flow out

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384612)
also be ready for 8.75 L or about 9 qt to flow out

From the oil filter housing? Half a quart is more like it......................

woodsman 02-04-2014 12:31 PM

in total- I mention this because the reservoir is huge compared to other engines

lkchris 02-04-2014 12:38 PM

It's probably most pricey to purchase the filter wrench from Porsche sources.

The wrench I use is something I've had for almost 20 years. Have used it on

Mercedes M103 engine
Mercedes M112 engine
Mercedes M272 engine

VW TDI

BMW Oilhead motorcycle

It's pretty common, that is, and pretty much a "German standard." Except for the M103 which was metal and too long ago to remember, the torque figure for ALL listed and for the Boxster has been 25 nm. As I say, "German standard."

Basically the entire German auto industy has converted to canister-type filters from all metal spin-on filters because of the environmental benefits. There is ZERO benefit to the suggested retrofit.

woodsman 02-04-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 384620)
It's probably most pricey to purchase the filter wrench from Porsche sources.
There is ZERO benefit to the suggested retrofit.

Have you researched the LN retrofit?:confused:

lkchris 02-04-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384622)
Have you researched the LN retrofit?:confused:

Sure--the point is there is no benefit to a spin-on metal filter over a cartridge type. The claims made for the LN sound just like using toilet paper for filter material.

jmatta 02-04-2014 12:53 PM

I've used the LN spin-on adapter since it came out with the Napa Gold filter. Far better oil filtration and eliminates the factory bypass. I also installed the LN magnetic oil drain plug to look for ferrous material at every oil change.

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 384625)
Sure--the point is there is no benefit to a spin-on metal filter over a cartridge type. The claims made for the LN sound just like using toilet paper for filter material.

  1. No by-pass under any conditions
  2. 30-35% finer media pore diameter than OEM style filters
  3. Spin on filters, becuase they are so widely used, are a fraction of the cost of the OEM style filter

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384618)
in total- I mention this because the reservoir is huge compared to other engines

But only 1/2 quart is going to come out of the car when you pull the filter, doing so will not drain the sump, which is what you seem to be implying.

scottvd 02-04-2014 11:43 PM

Even though it was a one-time use I stopped by WalMart and snagged the 76mm wrench- it was under $4 including tax. First oil change went perfect, got to use my new lift, propped the oil catch pan up on rolling trash can for perfect height. Didn't drop a drip of oil on the concrete.

Installed LN adapter and mag plug, Joe Gibbs DT40 and K&N oil filter. I've read good stuff about the Napa Golds too. Thx everyone for the feedback.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391589449.jpg

Spinnaker 02-05-2014 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384707)
Even though it was a one-time use I stopped by WalMart and snagged the 76mm wrench- it was under $4 including tax. First oil change went perfect, got to use my new lift, propped the oil catch pan up on rolling trash can for perfect height. Didn't drop a drip of oil on the concrete.

Installed LN adapter and mag plug, Joe Gibbs DT40 and K&N oil filter. I've read good stuff about the Napa Golds too. Thx everyone for the feedback.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391589449.jpg

Wow, I didn't know you could get negative weight oil. It drains uphill!

Are you near an harmonic vortex?

steved0x 02-05-2014 04:14 AM

No this is a picture of him refilling the car through the bottom, so that no oil spills in the trunk area!


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