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scottvd 02-04-2014 08:31 AM

Quick stock oil filter question
 
I'm doing my first oil change and I'm adding the LN spin on oil filter adapter - I don't have the specialty wrench to remove the stock oil filter housing and obviously don't want to purchase it just for one removal. Is there another way to get that thing off, not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

healthservices 02-04-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384584)
not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

Short answer... yes

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384584)
I'm doing my first oil change and I'm adding the LN spin on oil filter adapter - I don't have the specialty wrench to remove the stock oil filter housing and obviously don't want to purchase it just for one removal. Is there another way to get that thing off, not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

That tool is a very bad idea, you will crack the reusable plastic housing. This is what you need:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...0,160,0,T_.jpg

scottvd 02-04-2014 08:38 AM

Wow, quick replies - thanks. Ok, looking for possible not desirable so I'll give it a shot, looking forward to the potential colossal mess! (:

steved0x 02-04-2014 09:35 AM

This is the one I have:
Lisle 61570 76mm 14-Flute End Cap Wrench Set : Amazon.com : Automotive

I have seen that same size from walmart, and it has also fit a couple of other vehicles I have done.

Steve

recycledsixtie 02-04-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA (Post 384587)
That tool is a very bad idea, you will crack the reusable plastic housing. This is what you need:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...0,160,0,T_.jpg

+1 on this. You can get it from Pelican Parts. Careful you don't overtorque the plastic filter housing when you put it back on. Also note the position of the rubber/plastic o ring when you take the filter housing off. Last time I did it I put the o ring at the very top - not the correct position and after retightening it it got squeezed and lost enough oil to show on the driveway when I was driving away.

Careful also about using the correct torque when tightening the drain plug. If you don't have Wayne Dempsey's 101 Projects for your Porsche Boxster, you should get it and it is cheap at $30. First oil change is messy, 2nd not much and the 3rd I expect perfection from myself.

Cheers, Guy

TRPLBLK04 02-04-2014 12:12 PM

He's installing the LN adaptor, therefore not re-using plastic housing. Autozone carries the wrench if you dont wanna damage plastic housing. Otherwise...ChannelLocks

thstone 02-04-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384584)
I'm doing my first oil change and I'm adding the LN spin on oil filter adapter - I don't have the specialty wrench to remove the stock oil filter housing and obviously don't want to purchase it just for one removal. Is there another way to get that thing off, not really worried about damaging it - will a normal oil filter wrench work?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41H31jGU1yL.jpg

Another short answer: Yes. If it doesn't work, then borrow the correct tool from a local friend for the one time removal.

woodsman 02-04-2014 12:18 PM

also be ready for 8.75 L or about 9 qt to flow out

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384612)
also be ready for 8.75 L or about 9 qt to flow out

From the oil filter housing? Half a quart is more like it......................

woodsman 02-04-2014 12:31 PM

in total- I mention this because the reservoir is huge compared to other engines

lkchris 02-04-2014 12:38 PM

It's probably most pricey to purchase the filter wrench from Porsche sources.

The wrench I use is something I've had for almost 20 years. Have used it on

Mercedes M103 engine
Mercedes M112 engine
Mercedes M272 engine

VW TDI

BMW Oilhead motorcycle

It's pretty common, that is, and pretty much a "German standard." Except for the M103 which was metal and too long ago to remember, the torque figure for ALL listed and for the Boxster has been 25 nm. As I say, "German standard."

Basically the entire German auto industy has converted to canister-type filters from all metal spin-on filters because of the environmental benefits. There is ZERO benefit to the suggested retrofit.

woodsman 02-04-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 384620)
It's probably most pricey to purchase the filter wrench from Porsche sources.
There is ZERO benefit to the suggested retrofit.

Have you researched the LN retrofit?:confused:

lkchris 02-04-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384622)
Have you researched the LN retrofit?:confused:

Sure--the point is there is no benefit to a spin-on metal filter over a cartridge type. The claims made for the LN sound just like using toilet paper for filter material.

jmatta 02-04-2014 12:53 PM

I've used the LN spin-on adapter since it came out with the Napa Gold filter. Far better oil filtration and eliminates the factory bypass. I also installed the LN magnetic oil drain plug to look for ferrous material at every oil change.

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lkchris (Post 384625)
Sure--the point is there is no benefit to a spin-on metal filter over a cartridge type. The claims made for the LN sound just like using toilet paper for filter material.

  1. No by-pass under any conditions
  2. 30-35% finer media pore diameter than OEM style filters
  3. Spin on filters, becuase they are so widely used, are a fraction of the cost of the OEM style filter

JFP in PA 02-04-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384618)
in total- I mention this because the reservoir is huge compared to other engines

But only 1/2 quart is going to come out of the car when you pull the filter, doing so will not drain the sump, which is what you seem to be implying.

scottvd 02-04-2014 11:43 PM

Even though it was a one-time use I stopped by WalMart and snagged the 76mm wrench- it was under $4 including tax. First oil change went perfect, got to use my new lift, propped the oil catch pan up on rolling trash can for perfect height. Didn't drop a drip of oil on the concrete.

Installed LN adapter and mag plug, Joe Gibbs DT40 and K&N oil filter. I've read good stuff about the Napa Golds too. Thx everyone for the feedback.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391589449.jpg

Spinnaker 02-05-2014 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scottvd (Post 384707)
Even though it was a one-time use I stopped by WalMart and snagged the 76mm wrench- it was under $4 including tax. First oil change went perfect, got to use my new lift, propped the oil catch pan up on rolling trash can for perfect height. Didn't drop a drip of oil on the concrete.

Installed LN adapter and mag plug, Joe Gibbs DT40 and K&N oil filter. I've read good stuff about the Napa Golds too. Thx everyone for the feedback.

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391589449.jpg

Wow, I didn't know you could get negative weight oil. It drains uphill!

Are you near an harmonic vortex?

steved0x 02-05-2014 04:14 AM

No this is a picture of him refilling the car through the bottom, so that no oil spills in the trunk area!

scottvd 02-05-2014 05:43 AM

^ benefit of that magnetic drain plug

kk2002s 02-05-2014 05:46 AM

I never thought about draining via the filler tube

rp17 02-05-2014 06:23 AM

Wow nice lift. I see you got a couple of extra bolts that your not using too. :eek:

Is that the Max Jax?

hancock1701 02-05-2014 08:38 AM

I just changed my oil last week, and wanted to share with everyone the tool I used, which I got from PepBoys. It's a perfect fit, 74-76mm, 14 flute. The one I got was the beefier one, there's one with the same size but cheaper. Bonus pic is a stripped plug vs a new one.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391621699.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391621767.jpg
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1391621900.jpg

crooster 02-05-2014 09:12 AM

I guess one disadvantage of the spin on filters is that they are more work to cut apart and look for metal debris.

thstone 02-05-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by woodsman (Post 384612)
also be ready for 8.75 L or about 9 qt to flow out

The oil filter is higher than the sump. All you'll get is about 1/2 quart that is contained within the filter, the remaining 8-9 qt will stay in the sump.

JFP in PA 02-05-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crooster (Post 384762)
I guess one disadvantage of the spin on filters is that they are more work to cut apart and look for metal debris.

Not when you have the correct tools: http://static.summitracing.com/globa...ro-66490_w.jpg

scottvd 02-05-2014 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rp17 (Post 384740)
Wow nice lift. I see you got a couple of extra bolts that your not using too. :eek:

Is that the Max Jax?

LOL, yes good eye.. Although some bolts are missing I used crazy glue to keep it in place! (:

It is a Max Jax, awesome. With a chair creeper it lifts to the perfect height. I have a new concrete pad being poured outside my work shop and that will be it's new home. Between the 10 bolts I had 2 that didn't fit- the guy who set the wedge-it anchors kinda messed up. Max Jax has a video using just 1 arm with only 3 anchors and it lifted 3000 lbs... So I figured for an oil change I'd live on the edge a bit. :)

Mark_T 02-06-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JFP in PA (Post 384791)
Not when you have the correct tools: http://static.summitracing.com/globa...ro-66490_w.jpg

Very cool - never seen one of those before. I guess you could make one pretty easily from an old tubing cutter.

dghii 02-06-2014 07:02 AM

So much for a quick question about oil filters! OP might has well asked "What oil should I use?" :)

scottvd 02-06-2014 09:43 AM

Ok, so I finally looked at this thread on a desktop - and NOW I understand what everyone is talking about with the oil filling from upside down.. I posted the picture and viewed the thread on an iOS device - it shows the photo right side up! :)

dghii 02-06-2014 10:54 AM

Too funny! I was trying to add pictures to a VRBO property last night and the same thing happend...it was fine on my laptop desktop but inverted when I uploaded the pic to VRBO!

scottvd 02-06-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dghii (Post 384984)
Too funny! I was trying to add pictures to a VRBO property last night and the same thing happend...it was fine on my laptop desktop but inverted when I uploaded the pic to VRBO!

Been wanting to visit FL, count me in! (:


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