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RaisedOnPorsches 01-23-2014 12:32 PM

OT: Role Model For What Not To Do
 
The Bieb' was arrested for street racing while drunk, high, and drugged:

BBC News - Justin Bieber on Miami drink-drive charge after 'road racing'

Honestly, drunk, high, drugged, or sober, no 19-yearold should be allowed to drive a car like that, both for the welfare of the public and for the sake of the car. You think he'd have learned something from Paul Walker's sad example.

/end rant

particlewave 01-23-2014 12:39 PM

That guy is a complete douchebag and is in desperate need of a good beating ;)

Swhitcomb 01-23-2014 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 382658)
That guy is a complete douchebag and is in desperate need of a good beating ;)

Couldn't agree more.

jmatta 01-23-2014 01:09 PM

I say deport him back to Canada...I still have no idea how someone like this becomes popular in the first place, but I'm also not a 12 year old girl. We have enough dipweeds in the US, let alone these kinds.

Maybe he should run for mayor of Toronto?

Perfectlap 01-23-2014 01:17 PM

actually... going to the county clink in Miami is probably the best thing that will ever happen to him.

I may be a hypocrite for commenting on this story, but isn't there a war in Afghanistan?
Kooks plotting to blow up the winter Olympics? The beginning of stock market correction?

A prodigious douchebag doing as douchebags do is completely ordinary news.

RaisedOnPorsches 01-23-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 382663)
A prodigious douchebag doing as douchebags do is completely ordinary news.

Truth. I suppose I just find satisfaction in his misery. I believe ze germanz call it "schadenfreude." :D

TeamOxford 01-23-2014 01:29 PM

I think he's just trying to increase his street cred; trying to "earn" respect from the rapper thugs.

The kid's got everything any young man could possibly want. Maybe his irresponsibility could be cured with a short stay in the Pen. He'd certainly acquire a lot of "friends" quickly. FRESH FISH!!!!!

TO

rp17 01-23-2014 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 382658)
That guy is a complete douchebag and is in desperate need of a good beating ;)

+1


A really good beat down.

Joe B 01-23-2014 03:36 PM

Who cares :barf:! I guess it's good because it gives the news media something new to talk about.

Perfectlap 01-23-2014 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RaisedOnPorsches (Post 382666)
Truth. I suppose I just find satisfaction in his misery. I believe ze germanz call it "schadenfreude." :D

bad parenting. The minute the kid was on his own he basically showed that either he wasn't listening to a word is father taught him or the lessons never took place.
It's almost comical to see how predictable every single one of his decisions unfolded once he was given a large but finite amount of money. This kid will be singing at McDonalds soon.

coreseller 01-23-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 382707)
bad parenting. The minute the kid was on his own he basically showed that either he wasn't listening to a word is father taught him or the lessons never took place.
It's almost comical to see how predictable every single one of his decisions unfolded once he was given a large but finite amount of money. This kid will be singing at McDonalds soon.

This kid has had fame / fortune and everything positive and negative that goes with it to a degree unimaginable for most of us for quite awhile, to make such a sweeping statement such as yours is absurd.

Perfectlap, have you ever had kids? Gone through the teenage years where most kids (I've had Eagle Scouts, NHS students, Marion Award winners, Pure Sport Studs W/ Scholarships, etc.) test their parents to no end? Been lucky enough to survive those years into the early 20's where their head slowly comes out of their collective arses?

We have hundreds of friends and there is no accounting for some kids' and their behaviors. Justin B was a gonner (based on his popularity / money) about 2 years back, parenting had little to do with it.

TeamOxford 01-23-2014 05:15 PM

OK, I'm all for freedom of the press, but this "story" seems to have some definite negative "spin".

...was racing in a residential area................apartment buildings are along one side of the street and on the other side are a high school, a youth centre, a golf course and a fire station. Racing? He was allegedly doing 55-60 at 4:00 AM, with the road blocked off by members of his entourage.

...granted bail set at $2,500. Are you kidding? A $250 bail bond is valet tip money for this guy!

...had an invalid Georgia driver's licence. Oh yeah, that's where the $2500 bail came into play.

....thrown eggs at his neighbour's house....causing significant damage to the property. When I grew up, that was called Halloween Night.

...asked to remove graffiti he had left on the wall of a hotel in Australia. He's such a badass mofo! Ever heard of Keith Moon?

...charged in Brazil over a similar offence. Guess we're gonna have to extradite the little s**t.

Yeah maybe he's a punk wannabe gangsta, but basically he's harmless, and nothing will come of this.

Just sayin'...........

TO

newob 01-23-2014 05:33 PM

I think he is in a negative spiral and needs to be taught a lesson.

Timco 01-23-2014 05:43 PM

Miley Cirus
Macaulay Culkin

dghii 01-23-2014 07:04 PM

He's 19. He's suppose to be a dumbaz.

Still had big hair and a model in is rented Lamborghini.
Have to say it was a good day.

WhipE350 01-23-2014 07:51 PM

Justin who? Dang guess I haven't been paying attention. I'll go back to my Led Zeppelin and driving my 981 thru the twisties.

RaisedOnPorsches 01-23-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 382716)
basically he's harmless

I do think the media is going way over the top with this one, but a teenager speeding in a supercar in a urban setting while on several judgement and reflex impairing substances isn't what I'd call 'harmless'.

evomind 01-23-2014 08:12 PM

I cant get over how judgemental some people are. Hes a 19 year old kid. Maybe 20.
Getting hassled by the cops is a learning experience many of us have gone through.
He is actually rather tame compared to his rock counter parts but he is still younger than most.

I know not many of you will appreciate this, but for a kid he has a TREMENDOUS amount of pressure on him from the record company. He probably gets 20 calls a day just from them and spends hours on the phone with them telling him how he must sell "X" amount of cds, and sell this, and sell that, and say this and say that. He stands there and listens to them tell him how they spent 10M promoting his last CD and it just HAS to sell 10 million copies and on and on.....
That's A LOT of professional pressure for anyone, let alone a kid. Then his whole life is on TMZ.
Its a lot of crap to deal with and many celebrities, particularly those in the creative field are crushed by the pressure. Look at Michael Jackson. Absolutely crushed by the pressure of the industry. (Not making excuses for him, just sayin) A big part of Jacksons problems was that he was never able to eclipse the Thriller album, no matter how many times the record company told him he "just has to."

jb92563 01-23-2014 08:57 PM

All his trouble could be removed in an instant DEPORT his troubled a$$ back to Canada.

I doubt the money makers off his fame would ever allow that, his accountant would marry him to keep him here.

Nothing any middle class rebelious teen wouldnt do..hes par for the course really.

san rensho 01-24-2014 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RaisedOnPorsches (Post 382666)
Truth. I suppose I just find satisfaction in his misery. I believe ze germanz call it "schadenfreude." :D

While I share your sentiments, unfortunately, Shadenfreude is what our entertainment industry has become. We are waiting for the next star to havve a tragedy and whole media live off reporting the fall.

Mark_T 01-24-2014 05:39 AM

I'm not liking this talk about sending him back to Canada one little bit.

We strictly adhere to a policy of no returns after 14 days, and absolutely no refunds without a receipt.

Having said that, I would pay money to be able to smack that smart-ass look right off his little puke face. Everything about that kid just screams for a beating.

Perfectlap 01-24-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by coreseller (Post 382713)
This kid has had fame / fortune and everything positive and negative that goes with it to a degree unimaginable for most of us for quite awhile, to make such a sweeping statement such as yours is absurd.

.

I'm not referring to troubled kids in general when I referenced bad parenting, I'm specifically talking about this kid. If you've listened to the mother and father in interviews in speaking about how they disciplined/raised him or read up on the family history, you'd hardly be surprised that his teen age years went south quickly, particularly when he was left entirely to his own devices once he turned 18.

Perfectlap 01-24-2014 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dghii (Post 382740)
He's 19. He's suppose to be a dumbaz.

Still had big hair and a model in is rented Lamborghini.
Have to say it was a good day.

Two close friends were killed by a reckless driver. But that was unintentional reckless driving. What this douchebag was trying to do was entirely intentional and beyond idiotic. Anyone else would be deported immediately.
Unfortunately he's probably going to walk or get probation for most of his charges.

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Originally Posted by evomind (Post 382754)
I cant get over how judgemental some people are. Hes a 19 year old kid. Maybe 20.
Getting hassled by the cops is a learning experience many of us have gone through.

Hassled? Uhmm stopping street racing, a rampant problem in Miami, is EXACTLY their job as cops. And stopping people who drive while stoned (and drinking, and taking meds) is PRECISELY the job of a cop. How are the police the bad guys here?
Beiber's neighbohrs in California, including some retired NFL players, have personally confronted Beiber about his douchebag series street racing in their neighborhood where there are young kids all around.
This is a 14 year old stuck in 20 year old's body. Time to grow up before he kills someone. Unfortunately they released him on bail, a good 90 days in the county would have done him some good. So it will be back to the strip club, drugs and fake friends who are only looking to spend his money. But we've all seen this story played over and over. Like I said this is all very ordinary news.

dghii 01-24-2014 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 382806)
Two close friends were killed by a reckless driver. But that was unintentional reckless driving. What this douchebag was trying to do was entirely intentional and beyond idiotic. Anyone else would be deported immediately.
Unfortunately he's probably going to walk or get probation for most of his charges.



Hassled? Uhmm stopping street racing, a rampant problem in Miami, is EXACTLY their job as cops. And stopping people who drive while stoned (and drinking, and taking meds) is PRECISELY the job of a cop. How are the police the bad guys here?
Beiber's neighbohrs in California, including some retired NFL players, have personally confronted Beiber about his douchebag series street racing in their neighborhood where there are young kids all around.
This is a 14 year old stuck in 20 year old's body. Time to grow up before he kills someone. Unfortunately they released him on bail, a good 90 days in the county would have done him some good. So it will be back to the strip club, drugs and fake friends who are only looking to spend his money. But we've all seen this story played over and over. Like I said this is all very ordinary news.

I was being a little tongue in cheek with my comment. I'm glad no one was hurt as it would have been truly tragic. Just saying that I have done stupid stuff before, both in a car and out, and been fortunate enough to live to realize how stupid it was.
I just didn't have big hair so no one was following my every move. Hopefully the boy will grow up a bit and not self destruct (for his own good, don't care about his career). He's just a kid with a lack of guidance and control.

BTW, can't do 90 days in the jail....same laws apply regardless of your wallet. The fine he will eventually pay will be way less than his bar tab was that night. That'll send a message. :rolleyes:

evomind 01-24-2014 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 382806)
Two close friends were killed by a reckless driver. But that was unintentional reckless driving. What this douchebag was trying to do was entirely intentional and beyond idiotic. Anyone else would be deported immediately.
Unfortunately he's probably going to walk or get probation for most of his charges.



Hassled? Uhmm stopping street racing, a rampant problem in Miami, is EXACTLY their job as cops. And stopping people who drive while stoned (and drinking, and taking meds) is PRECISELY the job of a cop. How are the police the bad guys here?
Beiber's neighbohrs in California, including some retired NFL players, have personally confronted Beiber about his douchebag series street racing in their neighborhood where there are young kids all around.
This is a 14 year old stuck in 20 year old's body. Time to grow up before he kills someone. Unfortunately they released him on bail, a good 90 days in the county would have done him some good. So it will be back to the strip club, drugs and fake friends who are only looking to spend his money. But we've all seen this story played over and over. Like I said this is all very ordinary news.

Geez, relax man.
I never said the cops were bad guys here. Sometimes its their job to hassle people.

Perfectlap 01-24-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dghii (Post 382839)

BTW, can't do 90 days in the jail....same laws apply regardless of your wallet. The fine he will eventually pay will be way less than his bar tab was that night. That'll send a message. :rolleyes:

Agreed. A friend of mine did 90 days but that nutter was on his 3rd DUI and driving with a suspended license.
Beiber will probably skate since its the first DUI, the non-valid license thing will be a big fine, and the racing will probably be a 24-36 month license suspension...in a state that isn't his own. Which makes you wonder why most people get so uptight and scared when they get pulled over for speeding. If that much douchebaggery can't get you jail time then most have nothing to stress over.

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Originally Posted by evomind (Post 382862)
Geez, relax man.
I never said the cops were bad guys here. Sometimes its their job to hassle people.

I think we have a differing interpretations of the word hassle.
Much like some people think that going through a security check at the airport is a hassle but they also like to stay alive while in mid-air.

ChrisZang 01-24-2014 04:02 PM

Back to the original topic: Aren't Rock Stars supposed to behave like this?
I think there were times that the Who and the Stones routinely destroyed every hotel room the stayed in and the manager just shrugged and said: well they are Rock Stars ....

evomind 01-24-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 382869)
Agreed. A friend of mine did 90 days but that nutter was on his 3rd DUI and driving with a suspended license.
Beiber will probably skate since its the first DUI, the non-valid license thing will be a big fine, and the racing will probably be a 24-36 month license suspension...in a state that isn't his own. Which makes you wonder why most people get so uptight and scared when they get pulled over for speeding. If that much douchebaggery can't get you jail time then most have nothing to stress over.



I think we have a differing interpretations of the word hassle.
Much like some people think that going through a security check at the airport is a hassle but they also like to stay alive while in mid-air.

I kinda think a lot of what the gov does now in the name of "there is a terrorist behind every tree" is an infringement of my personal rights as set forth by the Constitution.
Its pretty hard for governments to infringe on peoples freedoms without some kind of scare tactic real or imagined, but that's another topic.

jb92563 01-24-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by evomind (Post 382950)
I kinda think a lot of what the gov does now in the name of "there is a terrorist behind every tree" is an infringement of my personal rights as set forth by the Constitution.
Its pretty hard for governments to infringe on peoples freedoms without some kind of scare tactic real or imagined, but that's another topic.

Works for Religions and oppresive governments too...time honored techniques

Its just a matter of time though before things implode or explode...Ukraine

This thread is starting to sound like group therapy...shall we all scream and then cry together :matchup:

RawleyD 01-24-2014 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisZang (Post 382922)
Back to the original topic: Aren't Rock Stars supposed to behave like this?

I think "Rock Star" might be too strong of words for what this kid is :chicken:

Tucker2 01-25-2014 09:25 PM

I went to a garage sale in my neighborhood today and two twin brother 6 year olds saw my Speed Yellow BS and immediately started screaming "It's Bieber!!! It's Bieber". LOL.

Their Grandfather was horrified and apologized but it was a good laugh. The kids also said, "Your car is COOL!!!"....so I didn't run over them. :-)

(Kidding...to be safe. I don't run over real kids....only fake ones. Humor. )


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