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Timco 01-15-2014 04:26 AM

49 in a 40.........
 
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particlewave 01-15-2014 06:59 AM

65 in a 30 back in Nov. I swear I was in the middle of nowhere on a highway. No signs, no houses...nothing.

Mandatory court appearance. I lucked out and only got a $135 fine. Could be because it was only my second ticket in more than a decade, though.

kk2002s 01-15-2014 07:22 AM

Driving 65 in a 55, out of no where Blue flashing lights in my rear view.
Oh - S... !!! I think. My wife is going to be right ("... you drive to fast in that thing ...")
Pulls the car following me over - Man I lucked out.

A mile later I'm on a familiar exit ramp hugging the right side white line, 2/3 around I hit black ice and I'm working the wheel to stay off the left side curb. Finally get to dry road - Man I lucked out x2

Some days work out

Perfectlap 01-15-2014 07:36 AM

Always fight your tickets. I have been to court so many time its hard to count. On every one of the tickets I was able to work out a non-points ticket with the municipal prosecutor.

The irony is all were for speeds under 65. Bigger irony: I only really need my Valentine One when I turn off the highway and go on the local roads. These are full of local small town cops who love to pull over Porsches. I strictly follow the speed limit here as I don't need the hassle of showing up to court or thanking the cop for "only" giving me a $60 seat belt ticket.

SeanZ4 01-15-2014 08:43 AM

I'm with you Perfectlap on fighting the tickets. I haven't had one posted to my driving record since '88. I've always worked out deals with the local judge etc. They just want your money. It's usually twice the face value of the ticket/fine. I pay it and it magically goes away! My insurance rates reflect the years of doing this… (they're cheap!)

kk2002s 01-15-2014 08:55 AM

I always have slightly smoked license plate covers.
I have had a complete of speeding pull overs get written up as obscuring license plates. These were not excessive speeding.
It gives the officer an option to get the violation but not give you the points
It's all about the money

CoBeerToad 01-15-2014 09:02 AM

I always do 15-20 over the limit on the expressway. Usually set the cruise for 17 over (4.5-6 mph speed-o-meter error) I figure that puts me around 11-12 mph over and I've passed cops and never been pulled over. Jinx on me, I'm sure.

Of course, there are no rules on 80/94 around south Chicago and NW Indiana. Sometimes doing 70 mph in a 55 zone will get you run over.

On local streets, I do 10 over the limit (including same speed-o-meter error) I've found the error to be around 4.5 mph while in the 30-50 mph range. Never had a problem.

Timco 01-15-2014 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 381083)
Always fight your tickets. I have been to court so many time its hard to count. On every one of the tickets I was able to work out a non-points ticket with the municipal prosecutor.

The irony is all were for speeds under 65. Bigger irony: I only really need my Valentine One when I turn off the highway and go on the local roads. These are full of local small town cops who love to pull over Porsches. I strictly follow the speed limit here as I don't need the hassle of showing up to court or thanking the cop for "only" giving me a $60 seat belt ticket.

Seat belt? How do you defeat the audible alarm? Never stops. Guess it's safer anyway...

So, with radar, what is the defense? Calibration? Last car in pack with other cars pulling away? False reading from this shape of car? Singled out for car type? Spedo didn't actually say that speed?

I have no doubt not only was I over, but I had been way farther over on the interstate! :D I certainly am glad to pay the fine, but it's the points.

40 in a wide, winding country road feels absurdly slow in this car.

Timco 01-15-2014 10:12 AM

Oddly, he did mention no front plate but since I have no holes and nowhere to mount it they don't require it. Had them filled when I was hit a few months back.

jmatta 01-15-2014 10:18 AM

Illinois State Police rarely pull you over, unless you are traveling 20+ over. Different story in South East Wisconsin...I'm usually no more than 6-8 over the posted limit.

Was clocked at 78mph in a 55 zone heading back from Road America a couple years back after passing a slow moving vehicle...got a warning; as luck would have it, I was in my Grand Cherokee.

CoBeerToad 01-15-2014 10:51 AM

When I went travelling to OKC, I knew they were changing the speed limit in Illinois so I was hoping my return trip would be faster. Alas... they didn't get the signs up by Jan. 2.
:)

Nine8Six 01-15-2014 11:26 AM

No radar or patrol in China. Never seen a police patrol chasing or even pulling over another car here. That is not their job!

Only way to ticket anyone here is by speed cameras. A still picture, kindly chopped by a judge already, with your clocked speed is sent to you by email. We also have a website to check LIVE tickets as well

Everyone pays their tickets at their scheduled yearly car inspection :)

Radars? those are "primitive hunting" methods the cops says here LOL

Nine8Six 01-15-2014 11:30 AM

Almost forgot. Sorry to hear what happened to you today Tim :(

TeamOxford 01-15-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 381106)
Seat belt? How do you defeat the audible alarm?

With one of these:

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1389819055.jpg

Photo is from an eBay ad. Mine have the full color crest, and "Boxster" in silver.

TO

TeamOxford 01-15-2014 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kk2002s (Post 381092)
It's all about the money

Say it ain't so............

TO

TeamOxford 01-15-2014 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 381107)
Oddly, he did mention no front plate but since I have no holes and nowhere to mount it they don't require it.

That doesn't cut it here in Texas. :(

TO

thstone 01-15-2014 12:02 PM

Like Perfectlap, I fight every ticket and almost always win. The law cuts both ways and most cops write crappy tickets that are indefensible in court.

Johnny Danger 01-15-2014 12:30 PM

Too bad there weren't some puddles in the way - they may have slowed you down. :p

Timco 01-15-2014 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger (Post 381145)
Too bad there weren't some puddles in the way - they may have slowed you down. :p

Not at all. I swerve over the double yellow line and don't have to even slow down to avoid puddles or wet patches of melting snow. That stuff is dirty!

Perfectlap 01-15-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 381123)
No radar or patrol in China. Never seen a police patrol chasing or even pulling over another car here. That is not their job!

Only way to ticket anyone here is by speed cameras. A still picture, kindly chopped by a judge already, with your clocked speed is sent to you by email. We also have a website to check LIVE tickets as well

Everyone pays their tickets at their scheduled yearly car inspection :)

Radars? those are "primitive hunting" methods the cops says here LOL

How much is your car insurance in China?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 381106)
Seat belt? How do you defeat the audible alarm? Never stops. Guess it's safer anyway...

So, with radar, what is the defense? Calibration? Last car in pack with other cars pulling away? False reading from this shape of car? Singled out for car type? Spedo didn't actually say that speed?

I have no doubt not only was I over, but I had been way farther over on the interstate! :D I certainly am glad to pay the fine, but it's the points.

40 in a wide, winding country road feels absurdly slow in this car.

Oh I was wearing my seatbelt. Our agreement that I wasn't was just between Mr. small town cop and I so he'd dispense with the speeding violation.

In that instance, if memory serves, the radar detector absolutely went off. But this clever copper parked his car in front of a supermarket and behind a snow embankment.
The automatic doors at a supermarket entrance will trip the x band or whichever on most radar detectors so I figured it was the doors opening since I couldn't see the cop sneakily hiding behind the snow. Once I saw the cherries flashing I knew I had been duped!!
I almost wanted to congratulate the guy for finally outsmarting the V1.
But in retrospect I should have known that automatic doors and a full lock-on of police x radar sound completely different on the V1. Not as drastic as the lazer but still hard to confuse.

People often say "why do you need a radar detector? Why don't you just stop going 100 mph??". Little do they know its for the back road smokies hiding in snow and not really for the staties looking to bust a 80-90 mph Porsche on the highway.

evan9eleven 01-15-2014 01:24 PM

60 in a 50 zone (100kmh in an 80 zone actually) cost me over $600... don't get me started about what it costs to live here. And as an added bonus, radar detectors are illegal. :ah:

silver-S 01-15-2014 01:44 PM

Seat belt alarms? The P.O. must have disabled them because I've never heard one. I always put the belt on reflexively, but I was pleasantly surprised not to be nagged about it. "Porsche repects the intelligence of its customers!", I thought.

Anyway, I haven't had a ticket in about 20 years, but suspect I'm overdue for one now that I'm driving a Porsche. I will fight it, though. Thanks for suggesting it.

Joshnich 01-15-2014 02:04 PM

I was cited doing 37 in a 25 with radar and beat the ticket. I am sure all states are different but here in California you can plead not guilty by written declaration and provide the details of your side of the story. In my case I provided google maps overhead photos showing the road and the nearest houses etc. Supplied photos of the road from where I was when pulled over and from where the cop was with the radar.
Basically using the basic speed law as a defense - again a California concept. I also noted that unless the police department can provide a recent survey of the road they may in fact have been using an illegal speed trap.
Also challenge the police to provide documentation regarding the calibration of the radar unit.
I found an on line resource that basically provided the "template" for the declaration.
I posted the bail and submitted the declaration and in about 60 days I received notice that the police dept would not challenge my declaration - and cashiers check refund on my bail.

If you like I can try and find a copy of my declaration - again it is based on California law so it may not be applicable.

Josh

Perfectlap 01-15-2014 03:12 PM

^ bail? Are you telling us the whole rest of the story there? :)

Timco 01-15-2014 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshnich (Post 381173)
I was cited doing 37 in a 25 with radar and beat the ticket. I am sure all states are different but here in California you can plead not guilty by written declaration and provide the details of your side of the story. In my case I provided google maps overhead photos showing the road and the nearest houses etc. Supplied photos of the road from where I was when pulled over and from where the cop was with the radar.
Basically using the basic speed law as a defense - again a California concept. I also noted that unless the police department can provide a recent survey of the road they may in fact have been using an illegal speed trap.
Also challenge the police to provide documentation regarding the calibration of the radar unit.
I found an on line resource that basically provided the "template" for the declaration.
I posted the bail and submitted the declaration and in about 60 days I received notice that the police dept would not challenge my declaration - and cashiers check refund on my bail.

If you like I can try and find a copy of my declaration - again it is based on California law so it may not be applicable.

Josh

Nice car!

I'll see what Utah law says. I had a cop once tell me (sheriff from same county) that it's their word against yours, and the radar is just one tool or piece of evidence and if you had a trip recorder that showed you never sped that would be evidence as well. It's the points. I have 2 tickets about to drop off to have a break to be back to zero.

cfos 01-15-2014 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 381106)
I certainly am glad to pay the fine, but it's the points.

Just go to Traffic School. Old guy with the 'stche is funny. He polls the "class" asking where they got caught and then tells you where the cops sit.

https://dotnet.slcgov.com/court/courtonlinepayment/SchoolInPerson.aspx

Timco 01-15-2014 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfos (Post 381194)
Just go to Traffic School. Old guy with the 'stche is funny. He polls the "class" asking where they got caught and then tells you where the cops sit.

https://dotnet.slcgov.com/court/courtonlinepayment/SchoolInPerson.aspx

This was in Wasatch county. Not offered. Midway to be exact.

Wasatch county Sheriff.

batshapedheart 01-15-2014 05:00 PM

100 on a 65. Speeding in the highway trying to catch a flight.
Cop pulls me over, gets out of patrol and when he's right beside me... he SCOFFS!
Turns out he knew my friend on the passenger seat, recognized him from high school.
Let go with a "don't go too fast"
FTW!

cfos 01-15-2014 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 381195)
This was in Wasatch county. Not offered. Midway to be exact.

Wasatch county Sheriff.

Ah. That's what you get for fleeing the Sundance. They get electricity in Heber yet?

Jamesp 01-15-2014 05:37 PM

It really is all about the money. Period. Get a lawyer, you pay them, they cut a deal with local law enforcement, you walk away usuallly paying less $$ overall with no hurt, no foul, see ya next time! Chalk it up to cost of doing business.

pothole 01-15-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thstone (Post 381136)
Like Perfectlap, I fight every ticket and almost always win. The law cuts both ways and most cops write crappy tickets that are indefensible in court.

Was about to say how horrendous it sounds driving in the US but looks like there are some advantages over there compared to the UK.

Mistakes are made here, but generally, they're very efficient at serving tickets correctly and the courts and legal process are very loaded against you.

That said, despite the complaining you hear, out of town the road policing is generally pretty light. Much of the time you can set your speed according to how you enjoy driving, road conditions and your view ahead rather than according to the arbitrary speed limits.

I'm talking about single carriageways, not multi-lane highways / freeways / motorways. Those kinds of roads are much more heavily policed but that's no great loss as driving fast on the motorway is hardly engaging or fun and you can generally cruise at 85mph without attraction unwanted attention, which is a tolerable pace in terms of getting places reasonably swiftly.

Having said all that, it doesn't take much to get banned - even a custodial sentence is possible. There but for the grace of god, really. If you are really driving a car like a Boxster to enjoy it - even a base model - you'll be doing fairly big triple-digit speeds at times on your favourite roads. Get caught doing that and you could be in big trouble. It's all too easily done.

Taipanic 01-16-2014 06:23 AM

I have used the Ticket Clinic here in Florida. Haven't had them beat one (don't think they try too hard) but they do get adjudication removed so no points. Usually ending up paying more but no insurance hit.
I also use an Escort 9500ix and Escort Live app on my phone. The combo has saved me many times - I went through 4 traps just on the way to work yesterday. The Escort has GPS so it also shows you where all of the red light cameras are too. I will soon add laser shifters.

alanqning 01-16-2014 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamOxford (Post 381132)
Say it ain't so............

TO

I will not go.........

Joshnich 01-16-2014 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfectlap (Post 381184)
^ bail? Are you telling us the whole rest of the story there? :)

I think that is what they called it! It wasn't a fine because I had not been found guilty. I had to post some dough to file the declaration - which was refunded much like bail would be. I do not btw have any other bail experience :):)

Slate 01 01-17-2014 02:32 AM

I attempted a 69 in a Toyota Celica Hatchback when I was in High School.

kk2002s 01-17-2014 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slate 01 (Post 381397)
I attempted a 69 in a Toyota Celica Hatchback when I was in High School.

"Attempted" suggests failure
I would have thought that a Celica was more capable, especially with an eager driver and passenger in High School

Did you fight that ticket?

Timco 01-17-2014 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshnich (Post 381374)
I think that is what they called it! It wasn't a fine because I had not been found guilty. I had to post some dough to file the declaration - which was refunded much like bail would be. I do not btw have any other bail experience :):)

I was released on OR usually. Only bail once.....

:eek:

Slate 01 01-17-2014 06:35 AM

Okay I was being humble and didn't want to cite the numerous violations of that "speed law" , among others, that I performed in that Celica.

Ah the things we do in our youth, God I miss them, lol.

BYprodriver 01-17-2014 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timco (Post 381403)
I was released on OR usually. Only bail once.....

:eek:

Bail, short for Bailment. Funds surrendered in lu of surrendering oneself to custody. In this case posting the amount of the fine until a decision is made. This serves to minimize people protesting in order to put off paying.

My brother-in-law owns the oldest Bail Bonds biz in O.C. CA Bob Drake Bail Bonds.

jotoole 01-17-2014 12:33 PM

Vet plates can pay for themselves
 
5:15 AM clocked doing 45 in a 25 mph zone. Officer asked me if I knew how fast I going. Told him yes, I did. Officer checked my driver's license then called his dispatcher w/my info. Officer hands back my license and says "you're a Vietnam vet, no way am I giving you a ticket." I paid extra for those Vietnam Veteran plates just for that reason. Paid off. Gave me a verbal warning.
p.s. I actually am a Vietnam vet


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