OH NO!! Metal shavings in oil filter :(|

[haz]

The car will be flat bedded to SS Performance Wednesday morning and they will examine the metal particles and the sump +++ to give me a diagnostics and a price for the job that needs to be done.
Porsche Center Oslo were not able to take deliver of my particles to have them further examined, unfortunately.

SS Performance claims that a rebuild, if I'm lucky and have intact rod bearings etc, I'm looking at $11500. They had a Boxster in atm that had complete failure and needed a 100% rebuild. If I need this, which I most likely do not since my engine still runs and his didn't (meaning that not all internal parts are destroyed), I'l shop for a second hand engine.

[haz]

So, a sudden change of events.. Now, I talked to a mechanic at Porsche Center Oslo over the phone right when they opened for the day @ 09:00 and told them about my metal particles in my oilfilter. Right after lunch I talked with the same guy. He said that metal partciles in the oilfilter after 27 months on the same oil is perfectly normal.. My "situation" had been their lunch topic! "So, you don't even want to see my car and check it out??" I asked.... nope, if it sounds nice when running, don't bother.

Guess you didn't expect that, Madmods.

Anywho, I will still be flatbedding the Boxster to SSP on wednesday for a diagnostic. Just wanted to let you in on the new info..

[madmods]

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[haz]

Originally Posted by madmods

Nope, I wasn't in all honesty.

Let's put it this way.... we run lightweight cranks(balanced), forged pistons & rods with GP spec machined cams in our motors. If there is 1 (one) shaving of "stainless steel" turning up anywhere, the motor is scrapped and replaced entirely. We do get to keep some parts but often most of it is not bothered with (bin).

I have no experienced whatsoever with 'production' cast and aluminum CAR engines but would assume it to be the same as far as hard metal shavings are concern.

What I meant was, I guess you didn't expect the Porsche Center to turn down a potential huge job and plenty $$$, I quote; if you go at the dealer your wallet and your mind will be in a worst state than your engine. .. then a lot of talk about how much they will be screwing me at the dealer..

I also did some Googling on second hand engines
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[jb92563]

A few small aluminum flakes in the oil filter indicate minor if not normal wear.

Since aluminum particles are relatively soft, any that bypass the filter and circulate around the engine, if they are tiny, may not do much damage BUT Magnetic particles are hard steel or iron and very detrimental to EVERYTHING inside the engine and having these circulate around the engine will do damage to bearings and other parts which will in turn quickly cause the engine to have problems and then fail completely.

The failure can cause considerable damage and render an engine unrepairable and require replacement.

If it were my engine, I would expect it to fail soon and I would be looking for another engine to replace it since the cost of a rebuild is so high in your area.

Other wise I have a shop take it apart immediately to see if it is still repairable with a partial or full overhaul before something devastating happens internally.

Any mechanic that thinks its OK to have you drive your car with magnetic particles of that magnitude in you oil filter is just plain wrong and giving BAD advice.

I would not let THAT mechanic touch your car as he if full of crap advising you that what you are seeing in your oil is OK.

I know you prefer the good news from that mechanic, but ..

Best of luck to you.

[haz]

Seeing as the latest responses indicate that some think I'm still driving my car around, I'm just going to quote myself to fill you guys in.

Originally Posted by haz

I will still be flatbedding the Boxster to SSP on wednesday for a diagnostic. Just wanted to let you in on the new info..

Also, I realize that reading every 4 pages in this thread is too much to ask before posting advises on what to do, I literally just a few post back wallpapered the thread with pictures of the oilfilter after I cut it open.

[ilikeching]

Originally Posted by haz

So, a sudden change of events.. Now, I talked to a mechanic at Porsche Center Oslo over the phone right when they opened for the day @ 09:00 and told them about my metal particles in my oilfilter. Right after lunch I talked with the same guy. He said that metal partciles in the oilfilter after 27 months on the same oil is perfectly normal.. My "situation" had been their lunch topic! "So, you don't even want to see my car and check it out??" I asked.... nope, if it sounds nice when running, don't bother.

Guess you didn't expect that, Madmods.

Anywho, I will still be flatbedding the Boxster to SSP on wednesday for a diagnostic. Just wanted to let you in on the new info..

HUH, that suprices me that Autocentrum PorscheCenterOslo qouted thats normal with metal lots of debris in your oilfilter...... and then just told you to drive it normal....

I'm just happy you went to SSP..