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Old 09-12-2013, 10:23 AM   #1
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:48 AM   #3
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It sure has been a bumpy ride and I have learned alot during this process. Hopefully, documenting my experience can help others in the future.

I did ask the main mechanic (you talk alot about Boxsters in two hours ) if he backed my theroy that the IMS for the 986/987/996 is a Porsche design flaw and that at least 10% of all cars mentioned above will experience an engine failure due to the IMS.
He went further. He said ALL of the engines in these models WILL fail eventually
Sure, it is only a theory, BUT -this guy has replaced three digit IMSīs and rebuilt almost 100 Boxster engines, so he has seen his share of these engines..

Itīs a disgrace that Porsche doesnīt admit the flaw and offer something in return. The same mechanic said he had a guy in with his 987 that had only did 23.000 kms, IMS explotion.... It had done alle services at Porsche Center Oslo (bought the car there also) and got JACK S**T covered. No warranty covered this...
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Good news on your IMS replacement, and the post change oil filter pics look great. I am inclined to agree with the mechanic that they will all fail at some point, the only thing is when - 10 or 250,000? It appears Porsche took three cracks at the design, and finally gave up with the 2009 changes. However, in the world of automotive manufacturers, they almost never admit to a mistake. That could lead to lawsuits (of course, this one did!)

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I did ask the main mechanic (you talk alot about Boxsters in two hours ) if he backed my theroy that the IMS for the 986/987/996 is a Porsche design flaw and that at least 10% of all cars mentioned above will experience an engine failure due to the IMS.
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Best of luck. I hope it works out well for you.

The oil changes have washed out the loose metal fragments, but there are two things you still don't know. One: did the metal fragment score any of the vital engine parts (cylinder walls, bearings, etc.) before they were washed out in the oil flushes during the IMS repair? Two: have any of the metal fragment lodged in any of the lubrication channels that will lead to faster wear than normal? Hopefully, the answer to both questions is no.
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Old 09-12-2013, 08:54 PM   #6
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Thom4782: Obviously. The mechanic gave me a good prognosis. But even he has to guess.
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Old 09-13-2013, 04:54 AM   #7
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haz:

sorry if this has been posted prior, but did you go with the LN upgrade? a porsche / pelican bearing or jakes's imsolution?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:08 AM   #8
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It hasn't I actually forgot to mention it.

It is neither. SSP has their own patented edition. Ever heard of SKF?
Bearings, units and housings - SKFUSA.com/Products

They have used SKF bearing-technology into their own IMS bearing product. Reinforced all over. Supposed to be better than LN Engeneerings IMS bearing by miles.

SSP do all of their own rebuilds* and create reinforced products. Look at the engine for the 996 in my pics. It will be rebuit with all stronger material to avoid oval cylinders.

*Knut Grave, main mechanic at SSP, has rebuilt almost 100 Boxster engines and have seen his fair share of broken IMS. I imagine he has had that in mind when creating his on bearing product.
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Congratulations Haz you have weathered the ims storm well. You have a great attitude. Cheers,G.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:46 AM   #10
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Congratulations Haz you have weathered the ims storm well. You have a great attitude. Cheers,G.
Damn guys! What a great place to hang out
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if you dont show us pictures of your tits than yes it is a very good place to hang out

very happy for you haz. but your story make me very nervous when I drive my boxster now. one little noise and I start thinking of you

I hope your boxster will completely rust before the engine die. like someone already said you deserve it. now go have fun
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Old 09-14-2013, 04:51 PM   #12
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if you dont show us pictures of your tits than yes it is a very good place to hang out

very happy for you haz. but your story make me very nervous when I drive my boxster now. one little noise and I start thinking of you

I hope your boxster will completely rust before the engine die. like someone already said you deserve it. now go have fun
He he.. Thanks TAKART

Have you gotten a quote for upgrading you IMS bearing at an indy or your nearest Porsche Center? Itīs easy for me to say this now, but upgrading the bearing is obviously an investment.
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haz where I live nobody is doing ims work on porsche. I found out I have double row bearing in my boxster and the car is more then 130,000 so I feel better about that

haz I buy the boxster at the same price you change your ims bearing so in my case it dont make sense to change. I am changing the front bumper and headlights soon. brake pads and new tires already buy and then I stop spending on this car
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Now doesn't that give a different slant on fitting an IMS retrofit....

According to TAKART in Lyon, the French Boxsters costs less to buy used than the cost of IMS bearing installation in Norway.....

In the UK (according to my latest 911 Porsche magazine) you can pick up an early Boxster for less than $4000 which is nearly the cost of a LN IMS bearing + clutch installation.
So why would you bother......
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:02 AM   #15
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No matter what country, pricing any Boxster at $4k makes me frightened at what condition that car is in.. And yeah, I wouldnīt bother with the IMS upgrade eiter
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I could not imagine what condition a $4000 Boxster would be in. It would likely need many $$$$$ to get it into reasonable shape. I know even used Boxsters take a hit in depreciation but a decent one should fetch way more than that. As an aside I notice where I live there are lots of used Boxsters for sale and are not selling and that is likely due to the time of year. Here most Boxsters are stored for the winter so there is not much demand right now. On the other hand there are few used Caymans for sale.

This is a good time to find and buy a used Boxster.
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:58 AM   #17
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Proof positive that all is good in my Porscheworld

Out cruising on twisty roads in great fall weather with a fellow 986 forum member from Oslo this morning:

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Out cruising on twisty roads in great fall weather with a fellow 986 forum member from Oslo this morning:


Wish I could have joined you for the drive Haz. Even though I'm in Norway my Boxster isn't. I'll try to drop you a note sometime when I'm headed to Oslo.
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No matter what country, pricing any Boxster at $4k makes me frightened at what condition that car is in.. And yeah, I wouldnīt bother with the IMS upgrade eiter
my car was damage by a front colision in a truck rear. needed to replace the front bumper and left headlight and i am sure some small bend somewhere in the frame that is why i got the boxster for very good price. in france boxster 2.5 is $6000-$8000 with 100,000km with medium condition. anyway at this price i still dont know if good idea to change the ims
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I've already bought 2 1998 Boxsters in the last couple of years. Both were 2 owner cars and each had about 117k miles at time of purchase. i paid $4,800 for the first and $5,400 for the latest one. No big issues with either car. Both had clear titles.

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