986 as a future classic

[Perfectlap]

How much are Karmann Ghia's going for?

A funny guy I once knew had one. It broke down, he took the tags off and left it on the street.

[southernstar]

KG Cabriolet's are, of course, worth the mos,t but the real collectibles are the original 'low-light's that were built until 1959. That's the model that was displayed at the NY Museum of Modern Art. Good examples are very hard to find and one often sees even total rusted wrecks going for $10K.

Brad

[Bigsmoothlee]

Compare it to the timeline of the Porsche 914.

They didnt become valuable until about 5 years ago.

And I use the term valuable loosely, since I havent seen many over 20K

[Whippy]

Originally Posted by Bigsmoothlee

Compare it to the timeline of the Porsche 914.

They didnt become valuable until about 5 years ago.

And I use the term valuable loosely, since I havent seen many over 20K

Good 914-6's regularly make over €30k (and more) in Europe! Good 4's regularly top 20k.

Production numbers alone make this comparison pretty invalid really!

[BYprodriver]

Originally Posted by Bigsmoothlee

Compare it to the timeline of the Porsche 914.

They didnt become valuable until about 5 years ago.

And I use the term valuable loosely, since I havent seen many over 20K

Perhaps the best basis for comparison. Value is mostly based on condition as 914s usually have huge corrosion problems. I don't think 986s will have any issues with corrosion.

[thstone]

Originally Posted by BYprodriver

Perhaps the best basis for comparison. Value is mostly based on condition as 914s usually have huge corrosion problems. I don't think 986s will have any issues with corrosion.

I would suggest that the 986 and the 914 are vastly different in terms of their places in Porsche history. The 914 was a standalone car - nothing came afterwards (924/944/968 were complete different designs/platforms).

Whereas, the 986 is a true sister car to the 996 and the 987 was still closely related to the 997. Even though the 981 and 991 aren't as closely related, the design language of both the 981 and the 991 clearly tie back to the 986.

This heritage will make the 986 many, many times more collectable than the 914.

[986_inquiry]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

How much are Karmann Ghia's going for?

A funny guy I once knew had one. It broke down, he took the tags off and left it on the street.

about the same prices as 986's are currently selling for, $5,000 to $12,000

[Fyeganeh]

So 3 years later and a new generation of four cylinder turbo Boxsters out, has people's opinion changed on a 986 becoming collectible or a classic one day?

To me it was a classic on day one when I bought it in Dec 1999. I guess to prove its collectible the price will need to rise year over year from a nadir for at least two years. But we haven't seen that yet.

Some of the threads said that with so many produced it can't become collectible. From my estimates about 50% of the original production has already been scrapped. Year over year the numbers listed for resale on Autotrader for 1997-2000 are 20% down. That would translate to about a 10% scrap rate of the original production numbers year over year which sounds ridiculously high. That is until you take into account these cars are approaching being 20 years old, low price and expensive to maintain. Also when you look at historical expected attrition rates for cars of this age the 10% of original production or 20% of remaining cars is about right....

By about 25 years only 20% will remain and by 30 years only about 10-15%.

So in about 10 years when all cars will drive themselves, there should be about 1500 of the 2000 year 986 left. Then give another 10 more years and with inflation....

One day they will be classic and collectible!

[10/10ths]

[78F350]

I suppose they can be 'collected' now.



As my cars and I age, there will come a time when we part ways. I have resolved to find an out of the way barn to park them in, seal them up, and pass them on to a 'finder' in the future.

[Luv2Box]

I know this will be argued ad nauseam and from many different definitions but the 986 model years from 1997-2004 is, according to Porsche, a classic. If Porsche says it's a classic, for me, it's good enough.
986 - Porsche Classic