01-06-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
"If you get one, don't be surprised when you get owned on a twisty highway by anything from the Porsche factory."
I have both cars right now.
This statement is simply not true.
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I don't like the balance of the Vette, I know it has good skid pad numbers but I still prefer the grip of the Porsche and Vettes ride like stagecoach wagons,every crack is felt. As for the production car fastest dealio, get the Lambo and the vette, I'll race in the lambo anyday..GM is not a sports car manufacturer, nor will they ever be. I know a lot of people love them and that's good with me. I had access to a 69 with both tops factory 4 speed, I liked it because of it's looks and brute speed so I do get it. It really does depend on what you want, the two vehicles are very different IMHO. I didn't mean to offend anyone..
Peace..
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01-06-2006, 10:51 AM
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Hi,
Without being judgemental, I think it's safe to say that Ghostrider 310 just doesn't get it.
He may not like the Corvette, which is of course his right to choose, I suspect that he isn't as familiar or current with them as he may think.
To try and malign the 'Vette to bolster or affirm his choice of Porsche over Covette simply lacks substance.
Brucelee makes a good point about the validity of camparing a near 20 y.o. 'Vette to a 21st Century Porsche.
But, do a reliability survey between 2000+ Boxsters vs 2000+ Corvettes. The results may surprise many people. This was the single biggest factor in my recommending the 'Vette over the Boxster.
It's really all opinion anyway, and an easy one at that when it's not your money which is being Plunked Down...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-06-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,
Without being judgemental, I think it's safe to say that Ghostrider 310 just doesn't get it.
He may not like the Corvette, which is of course his right to choose, I suspect that he isn't as familiar or current with them as he may think.
To try and malign the 'Vette to bolster or affirm his choice of Porsche over Covette simply lacks substance.
Brucelee makes a good point about the validity of camparing a near 20 y.o. 'Vette to a 21st Century Porsche.
But, do a reliability survey between 2000+ Boxsters vs 2000+ Corvettes. The results may surprise many people. This was the single biggest factor in my recommending the 'Vette over the Boxster.
It's really all opinion anyway, and an easy one at that when it's not your money which is being Plunked Down...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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The comparison was between an 83 vette and 83 944, the vette lost in the slalom to a 944, so did a 928 and a 308 Ferrari ..It was an article I read which was a repost from R&T I think. I'm well aware that the current Vette can run with it's contemporaries, if you guys like em, go for it...The other dude posted that the 84 vette was the fastest production car that year, I still maintain that it wasn't..
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01-06-2006, 12:30 PM
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I don't know much about the C6 Vette, but if it is NOT a drop-top, the decision would be very-very easy...get the Boxster. Nothing like driving with the top down.
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01-06-2006, 02:23 PM
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Doug,
I find it VERY humorous that you'd ask hundreds of Boxster owners on this forum if you should buy a Boxster or a Corvette. It shouldn't be too hard to guess what we'd tell you, would it?
I think you should take Richard's advice (BruceLee) and drive both, decide what you'd enjoy driving for as long as you plan to keep it, and then make your decision.
As a little kid, I dreamed of owning a Porsche. What did you dream of owning one day? Buy that car and find out if it was worth dreaming about all these years.
For me, it was a Porsche, for which there is no subsitute (including the Corvette).
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01-06-2006, 03:22 PM
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I like the BruceLee way - get them both. Then do a long term study on which you like better.
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01-06-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by creseida
You might also want to consider gas mileage.  [/color][/size]
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The boxster's mpg rating is worse than the corvettes.
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01-06-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
The comparison was between an 83 vette and 83 944, the vette lost in the slalom to a 944, so did a 928 and a 308 Ferrari ..It was an article I read which was a repost from R&T I think. I'm well aware that the current Vette can run with it's contemporaries, if you guys like em, go for it...The other dude posted that the 84 vette was the fastest production car that year, I still maintain that it wasn't..
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You may want to chech that article again. A 1983 corvette doesn't exist. GM didn't offer a vette for 83. They jumped that year and went into the C4 for the 84 year.
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01-06-2006, 07:56 PM
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American engineering vs. German engineering....no contest. Go with the Porsche. I've had several friends who bought new Vettes to sell them a year later for something else because of disappointment with quality. Check the 928 forums and you'll see several people who dumped their new Vettes for 20 year old Porsches and have never regretted it.
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01-06-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
The comparison was between an 83 vette and 83 944, the vette lost in the slalom to a 944, so did a 928 and a 308 Ferrari ..It was an article I read which was a repost from R&T I think. I'm well aware that the current Vette can run with it's contemporaries, if you guys like em, go for it...The other dude posted that the 84 vette was the fastest production car that year, I still maintain that it wasn't..
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Don't backtrack brother, you said "GM is not a sports car manufacturer, nor will they ever be"! :troll:
Furthermore, I don't know squat about 1983 Vettes, but from 1982 to 1985 (a four year period) Lambo only sold 323 Countach cars--I'm not convinced averaging 80 cars a year qualifies as a "production" car. By production car I'm pretty sure most enthusiasts are talking about a car produced on an assembly line in large numbers, not hand built one at a time.
And the person who said the Vettes of today have a low build quality sure is right. The plastic is cheap and the seats feel weak, etc., etc., but they have come a long way recently.
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01-06-2006, 10:58 PM
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Let's see, a Porsche or a C6....Hmmmm
Oh yaa, a Porsche!
Sorry biased
Get use to seeing this if on a coastal or mountain road, you can have the next red light
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01-07-2006, 07:16 AM
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rbennett, I am not very good with personalized plates....so, what does yours mean? Channel...like the perfume??
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01-07-2006, 10:08 AM
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I suspect the plate is a take-off of the German word "schnell", which means something like quick or hurry-up.
Many of your points are well-taken mnboxster, however, I still contend that many purchases of enthusiast-type cars are motivated by things other than engineering factors. If that were not true the car companies wouldn't spend the millions and millions they do trying to build an image.
You didn't mention it, but I'm sure you realize that the Auto Union was designed by ol' Ferdy.
The post-WWII Porsche folks also designed a beast called the Cisitalia, intended to compete in the F1 World Championship events that commenced in 1950. After many years of financial tribulations, the project was dropped in the '52 or '53. The final configuration was mid-engine 1500cc supercharged flat 12 cyl. At one time in the development, 4-wheel drive was part of the design.
Many rear-engine cars competed in F1 events prior to the Lotus 25, although they were generally up-rated F2 designs, not full F1 spec. Stirling Moss won the 1958 Argentine Grand Prix in a 2.2 liter rear-engine Cooper, a victory that marks the first post-wwII victory by a rear-engine car. The Lotus 25 was certainly a landmark car, but hardly the first rear-engine post-war Grand Prix design.
Much ado about ancient history, eh?
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01-12-2006, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bmussatti
rbennett, I am not very good with personalized plates....so, what does yours mean? Channel...like the perfume??
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It's a German word for rapid movement  ( as Donny Baker sez "bob & tom in the morning" look it up!!!, I gotta go now)
My great grandfather is from Germany, ya think I knew??  (lazy a$$ CA type of guy)
Sorry didn't see your post till now.
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01-07-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rbennett
Get use to seeing this if on a coastal or mountain road, you can have the next red light 
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I like that...
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rbennett, I am not very good with personalized plates....so, what does yours mean? Channel...like the perfume??
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That's good too...
Won't the Vette seem utterly huge when coming from a Miata? When you sit all hunkered down in that GM plastic with that big ol' hood in front of you... that will seem very different from what you're used to. Boxster -the roadster obviously, will be ever so familiar. Though the Vette and Boxster can seem somewhat comprable, compared to what you're coming from (the Miata), it's a pretty radical change.
As for the 80s car debate... wow, shouldn't we just put that decade behind us? I'm not a fan of anything from that era... we should be ashamed of ourselves (Vette, Porsche, Lambo -everything... UG!)
Except for the 88 Maxima... I, for some reason, LOVED that car!
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01-07-2006, 04:05 PM
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Had a C5, Z-28, and even a Lotus Elise. I will never purchase any of those cars again. I have never tracked any of these cars so I won't go there...but...on the street the Boxster S I currently own has been the absolute best. As quick as the Z-28, a bit slower than the C5, and I truly believe quicker than the Lotus. The Vette was basically a flexable piece of ****************. Sorry to those that own them...but come on. This car felt like a HUGE PIG that just wanted to twist apart on every uneven patch of road. NEVER FELT SAFE! The C6 looks much tighter due to its smaller dimensions but I just don't trust Chevy did enough to firm up the car. I vowed to never buy the same car twice until I purchased the Boxster. I have never felt as home and secure as in this car. I sold my 3 month old Lotus Elise for it! I will buy a Boxster again! It's just that good of a feeling! I have come to realize only recently that large, high horsepower engines don't make a car. It should be a total sensory experience combining power, handling, style, AND the secure feeling which lacked in all the above cars!
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01-06-2006, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
I don't like the balance of the Vette, I know it has good skid pad numbers but I still prefer the grip of the Porsche and Vettes ride like stagecoach wagons,every crack is felt. As for the production car fastest dealio, get the Lambo and the vette, I'll race in the lambo anyday..GM is not a sports car manufacturer, nor will they ever be. I know a lot of people love them and that's good with me. I had access to a 69 with both tops factory 4 speed, I liked it because of it's looks and brute speed so I do get it. It really does depend on what you want, the two vehicles are very different IMHO. I didn't mean to offend anyone..
Peace..
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GM not a sports car manufacturer? If you want to spank an '06 Z06 Vette with a new Porsche I hope you bring your Carrera GT!
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