01-06-2006, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rteichman
The 83 vette, design wise, was a 10 year old car (actually there wasn't even an 83 vette it was a hold over from 82). The 84 vette could outperform any other production car made that year. They may use brute force to achieve their performance, as opposed to the elegance of a Porsche, but vettes do perform!
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84 vette outperforms all other production vehicles of the same year? I'm not buying it..Push an 84 into a corner see where you end up, that era of vettes was particularly ****************ty, I drove a couple I know.
BTW 1984...Lambo specs
Lamborghini Mid-Engine 5 litre V-12 with 6 two barrel carbs, putting out 375 horses.
Here's the vette specs:
Type: V8
Displacement: 5733 cc
Horsepower: 205 bhp @ 4300 rpm
Torque: 290 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
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01-06-2006, 09:10 AM
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"If you get one, don't be surprised when you get owned on a twisty highway by anything from the Porsche factory."
I have both cars right now.
This statement is simply not true.
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01-06-2006, 09:11 AM
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"84 vette outperforms all other production vehicles of the same year? I'm not buying it..Push an 84 into a corner see where you end up, that era of vettes was particularly ****************ty, I drove a couple I know."
Actually, the 84 vette pulled 1.02 G.
Having said that, this is not germane to today's C6. A whole other car totally.
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01-06-2006, 09:13 AM
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" Ride in a 10 year old vette and then in a 10 year old Porsche. Especially comming from a Miata, I think you will be sorely disappointed in the shakes and rattles of the vette."
I have owned a 97 911 and a 97 Vette.
You might be surprised at how close they were in the "rattles" dept.
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01-06-2006, 09:14 AM
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"You probably know what features are the most important for you and by driving these cars extensively, you'll figure out which one hits the mark and which one doesn't. Best of luck with it."
Right on!
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01-06-2006, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Brucelee
"If you get one, don't be surprised when you get owned on a twisty highway by anything from the Porsche factory."
I have both cars right now.
This statement is simply not true.
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I don't like the balance of the Vette, I know it has good skid pad numbers but I still prefer the grip of the Porsche and Vettes ride like stagecoach wagons,every crack is felt. As for the production car fastest dealio, get the Lambo and the vette, I'll race in the lambo anyday..GM is not a sports car manufacturer, nor will they ever be. I know a lot of people love them and that's good with me. I had access to a 69 with both tops factory 4 speed, I liked it because of it's looks and brute speed so I do get it. It really does depend on what you want, the two vehicles are very different IMHO. I didn't mean to offend anyone..
Peace..
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01-06-2006, 10:51 AM
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Hi,
Without being judgemental, I think it's safe to say that Ghostrider 310 just doesn't get it.
He may not like the Corvette, which is of course his right to choose, I suspect that he isn't as familiar or current with them as he may think.
To try and malign the 'Vette to bolster or affirm his choice of Porsche over Covette simply lacks substance.
Brucelee makes a good point about the validity of camparing a near 20 y.o. 'Vette to a 21st Century Porsche.
But, do a reliability survey between 2000+ Boxsters vs 2000+ Corvettes. The results may surprise many people. This was the single biggest factor in my recommending the 'Vette over the Boxster.
It's really all opinion anyway, and an easy one at that when it's not your money which is being Plunked Down...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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01-06-2006, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,
Without being judgemental, I think it's safe to say that Ghostrider 310 just doesn't get it.
He may not like the Corvette, which is of course his right to choose, I suspect that he isn't as familiar or current with them as he may think.
To try and malign the 'Vette to bolster or affirm his choice of Porsche over Covette simply lacks substance.
Brucelee makes a good point about the validity of camparing a near 20 y.o. 'Vette to a 21st Century Porsche.
But, do a reliability survey between 2000+ Boxsters vs 2000+ Corvettes. The results may surprise many people. This was the single biggest factor in my recommending the 'Vette over the Boxster.
It's really all opinion anyway, and an easy one at that when it's not your money which is being Plunked Down...
Happy Motoring!... Jim'99
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The comparison was between an 83 vette and 83 944, the vette lost in the slalom to a 944, so did a 928 and a 308 Ferrari ..It was an article I read which was a repost from R&T I think. I'm well aware that the current Vette can run with it's contemporaries, if you guys like em, go for it...The other dude posted that the 84 vette was the fastest production car that year, I still maintain that it wasn't..
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01-06-2006, 12:30 PM
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I don't know much about the C6 Vette, but if it is NOT a drop-top, the decision would be very-very easy...get the Boxster. Nothing like driving with the top down.
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01-06-2006, 02:23 PM
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Doug,
I find it VERY humorous that you'd ask hundreds of Boxster owners on this forum if you should buy a Boxster or a Corvette. It shouldn't be too hard to guess what we'd tell you, would it?
I think you should take Richard's advice (BruceLee) and drive both, decide what you'd enjoy driving for as long as you plan to keep it, and then make your decision.
As a little kid, I dreamed of owning a Porsche. What did you dream of owning one day? Buy that car and find out if it was worth dreaming about all these years.
For me, it was a Porsche, for which there is no subsitute (including the Corvette).
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01-06-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
The comparison was between an 83 vette and 83 944, the vette lost in the slalom to a 944, so did a 928 and a 308 Ferrari ..It was an article I read which was a repost from R&T I think. I'm well aware that the current Vette can run with it's contemporaries, if you guys like em, go for it...The other dude posted that the 84 vette was the fastest production car that year, I still maintain that it wasn't..
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You may want to chech that article again. A 1983 corvette doesn't exist. GM didn't offer a vette for 83. They jumped that year and went into the C4 for the 84 year.
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01-06-2006, 07:56 PM
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American engineering vs. German engineering....no contest. Go with the Porsche. I've had several friends who bought new Vettes to sell them a year later for something else because of disappointment with quality. Check the 928 forums and you'll see several people who dumped their new Vettes for 20 year old Porsches and have never regretted it.
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01-06-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
The comparison was between an 83 vette and 83 944, the vette lost in the slalom to a 944, so did a 928 and a 308 Ferrari ..It was an article I read which was a repost from R&T I think. I'm well aware that the current Vette can run with it's contemporaries, if you guys like em, go for it...The other dude posted that the 84 vette was the fastest production car that year, I still maintain that it wasn't..
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Don't backtrack brother, you said "GM is not a sports car manufacturer, nor will they ever be"! :troll:
Furthermore, I don't know squat about 1983 Vettes, but from 1982 to 1985 (a four year period) Lambo only sold 323 Countach cars--I'm not convinced averaging 80 cars a year qualifies as a "production" car. By production car I'm pretty sure most enthusiasts are talking about a car produced on an assembly line in large numbers, not hand built one at a time.
And the person who said the Vettes of today have a low build quality sure is right. The plastic is cheap and the seats feel weak, etc., etc., but they have come a long way recently.
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01-06-2006, 10:58 PM
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Let's see, a Porsche or a C6....Hmmmm
Oh yaa, a Porsche!
Sorry biased
Get use to seeing this if on a coastal or mountain road, you can have the next red light
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01-06-2006, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310
I don't like the balance of the Vette, I know it has good skid pad numbers but I still prefer the grip of the Porsche and Vettes ride like stagecoach wagons,every crack is felt. As for the production car fastest dealio, get the Lambo and the vette, I'll race in the lambo anyday..GM is not a sports car manufacturer, nor will they ever be. I know a lot of people love them and that's good with me. I had access to a 69 with both tops factory 4 speed, I liked it because of it's looks and brute speed so I do get it. It really does depend on what you want, the two vehicles are very different IMHO. I didn't mean to offend anyone..
Peace..
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GM not a sports car manufacturer? If you want to spank an '06 Z06 Vette with a new Porsche I hope you bring your Carrera GT!
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