12-23-2012, 04:41 PM
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Tires
I have Pirrelli P-Zero Rosso's all around, the rears are worn nearly bald in the center and I can hear the sound of the tread that is left on the outer edges mostly when I am just cruising straight. These tires seem to handle great when pushed hard. But I am thinking that I am looking for a very quite tire that also handles well. This is my toy car so when it rains for a few days, I will most likely be driving the Explorer or Jeep. I was looking at the Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110, Sumitomo HTR Z III, Kumho Ecsta 4X or the Continental ExtremeContact DW. Is anyone here unhappy with any of these tires?
It is one thing to read TireRack reviews, but that is not the same as hearing from Boxster owners exclusively. I do not want to spend a $1000 on this go around. I was thinking to either put two new P-Zero Rossi's in the rear since the fronts have better than 50% tread left or replacing all four with new tread. I love the feel of new tires...
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12-23-2012, 07:09 PM
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Anyone ?????
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12-23-2012, 07:14 PM
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Track rat
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If you plan to drive the car in below 40f weather on a regular basis, Shoe it up with all season tires. If not, any of the summer tires mentioned will work. I would put a pair of Hankook V12s on the rear and be done.
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12-23-2012, 07:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
If you plan to drive the car in below 40f weather on a regular basis, Shoe it up with all season tires. If not, any of the summer tires mentioned will work. I would put a pair of Hankook V12s on the rear and be done.
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I will not be driving in under 40 degree temps very often. But have never mixed front and rear brands of tires. Well not since I was 17 and through on whatever I could get.
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2008 Land Rover LR3 Alaska White/Alpaca
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12-23-2012, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V-Rod
I will not be driving in under 40 degree temps very often. But have never mixed front and rear brands of tires. Well not since I was 17 and through on whatever I could get.
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As long as the tires are of similar design, treadwear, and grip levels they work fine. I have actually mix-and-matched quite often in 8 years with this car. Now running max summer tires on the front and A/S tires on the rear would be treacherous. My brother tried it once and managed to put his car in the weeds after only 10 minutes driving. Off they came.
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12-23-2012, 07:25 PM
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Sorry I've tried a few but nothing comes close to the Michelin Pilot Super Sports I got installed, balanced, including tax (out the door) for $1100. Never flatspot, quiet, and turn-ins are fantastic. I had Fuzions last time and they stuck to the road like glue, flat spotted for about 3 miles and were noisy at low speed . I had the Hankooks V12s when I had 17 inch rims and didn't like the way they felt at high speeds on highway, twisties they felt fine.
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12-23-2012, 07:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WhipE350
Sorry I've tried a few but nothing comes close to the Michelin Pilot Super Sports I got installed, balanced, including tax (out the door) for $1100. Never flatspot, quiet, and turn-ins are fantastic. I had Fuzions last time and they stuck to the road like glue, flat spotted for about 3 miles and were noisy at low speed . I had the Hankooks V12s when I had 17 inch rims and didn't like the way they felt at high speeds on highway, twisties they felt fine.
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How has the wear been on the Michelin's? I do like flat and straight tracking on the highway.
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12-24-2012, 06:06 AM
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Autobahn Glanz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V-Rod
How has the wear been on the Michelin's? I do like flat and straight tracking on the highway.
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Too early to tell, and with these cars it's all about driving style and alignment when it comes to wear.
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Originally Posted by thstone
I'd seriously consider just replacing the rears. It doesn't seem that you hate the tires you have now and the fronts have more than 50% tread left. Plus, this is probably the cheapest route.
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I'll have to +1 this.
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12-24-2012, 06:44 AM
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Had very bad experience with the last set of michelins. 3 of the 4 failed within the 1st 3 months with bubbles on the sidewalls. still had 9/32 tread and michelin screamed road hazard and would not stand behind them. I have 2 other porsches with hankook v12's on them. never a problem. hold just as well as michelin, wet or dry. Last longer. balance better. and cost half as much. Michelin lost a 40 year loyal customer when I got a bad set and they did not stand behind them. According to the customer service GIRL they assigned to me, any sidewall separation of the sidewall has to be my fault and never a manufacturing defect. I am certain she has probably seen a rire, but doubt that she ever actually touched one. For my money, hankook. Now have them on everything. Best deal I have found is discounttiredirect on the net. Very good prices, great service and quick shipping
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12-23-2012, 09:27 PM
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I'd seriously consider just replacing the rears. It doesn't seem that you hate the tires you have now and the fronts have more than 50% tread left. Plus, this is probably the cheapest route.
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12-24-2012, 06:44 AM
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I recently got 4 Hankooks from Tirerack for about $550 installed. When I first got them they were very squiirmy, but after a few heat cyclesand about 200 milees, the firmed up and now they handle great. Haven't gone on the track with them yet, but they are good on the street.
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12-24-2012, 07:07 AM
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I've always been intrigued by the Nitto series of tires .
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12-24-2012, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
I've always been intrigued by the Nitto series of tires .
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I have always considered tires a major part of the outside appearance of a car. Therefore I won't downgrade with anything inferior to OEM components. The quickest & easiest way to alter the performance & appearance of a motor vehicle is by changing the tires. When I inspect a vehicle for sale the tires tell alot about how it was maintained & driven. To me downgrading tires is simular to replacing a Porsche spoiler with universal 1 size fits some E-bay spoiler.
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12-24-2012, 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
I've always been intrigued by the Nitto series of tires .
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If you have always been intrigued. What has stopped you from trying them?
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12-24-2012, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by V-Rod
If you have always been intrigued. What has stopped you from trying them?
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I currently have a set of Goodyear F1's that have 95+ percent still on them. Maybe in the future I'll give the Nitto Invo, NT05 or NT450 a try .
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12-24-2012, 08:37 AM
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Hankook from Tire Rack it is. Now I got to find a place that can mount without a scratch and balance these perfectly. Then I will check all the suspension bushings before getting an alignment which is another subject unto itself.
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12-24-2012, 09:49 AM
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I have Hankook Ventus V12s on 19's and they do everything I need them to... I have tried to loose grip on spirited country drives and really had to push the car more then I was comfortable. The hold like glue.
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12-24-2012, 11:37 AM
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I just got a set of mich pilot sport A/S plus at costco for a grand total of $930. Since my girl is a daily driver I needed all seasons, and I chose mich because the car came with them when I bought it a year ago. I can vouch for this tires as one of the best tires I have ever driven on. The old set were in pretty bad shape because the owner didn't use the car that much so they were slightly dry rotted. By the time I replaced them you could probably take a chunk off the tire and they were pretty slick in the back. It was bad, but even in the bad condition they were in, they kept me pretty safe and in the dry still griped like glue. They were also very tough tires that could take a hit.
I was infortunate enough to have someone change lanes onto me a while ago on my way to newark. I was in the right lane and to avoid getting hit I hit the curb at around 50mph. The tire held together and even held enough air for me to reach the nearest autozone to get my spare on. When I inspected the tire it had tare on the side wall and no damage to the rim.
Now with the new set it feels good and with minimal road noise. I still have to try them in the wet so I am hoping they are good. They also look really agressive and I like that. The only down side to the tires is that they are quite expensive.
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12-29-2012, 05:16 PM
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I have had Pirelli's on other vehicles and they never seem to last at all for me.
I currently have Hankooks on a couple of vehicles and they hold up well in dry and wet, noise level seem ok.
For the Boxster, I currently have the BFG KDW's and love them for performance/price/and looks. I also had Bridgestone RE050 and Fuzions on them before with a lot of luck also.
In general, I tend to stay away from Pirelli and Yokohama's.
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12-30-2012, 08:05 PM
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Vista glass
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I put the Michelin pilot sport A/S on the box. Expensivo, but hey it's me were talking about here! They perform well here in Florida wet or dry, are quiet and have been wearing well. I paid the extra for hazard and have replaced one, no questions asked after a sidewall got cut. The car had the same tires on when I got it but they were old. The PPI noted that and I negotiated to split the cost. The old tires looked great and even drove well, or so I thought until the new set was mounted.
I replaced the Pirellis on my F150 with Nitto Crosstecs.They do not make the Pirelli I was using anymore. The guys at the tire shop where I have been spending a lot of time and money recommended the Nitto brand. They said Nitto is trying to get into the market and thus were a great deal. Of course there was a difference in price and performance. You get what you pay for. I saved a couple of hundred, I got a rougher ride. The Nitto's handle the road well wet or dry so far. They are a little noisier and seem to flat spot.The tread seems to collect gravel all the time. They do look great on the vehicle. I do not know if this will apply to their performance tires, I could not find very many reviews of their products on-line when I was in the market early this year.
Last edited by Vista glass; 12-30-2012 at 08:06 PM.
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