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Old 11-01-2005, 02:23 PM   #1
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You know, I have no idea why a "fender bender" totals a Porsche, but if you look at all the boxsters on salvage yards I frequent, the damage isn't so bad at first glance. They just look as if they need a new hood, front fenders, bumper, a headlamp, possible sub-frame straighening, etc.

It may be that the cost of these parts is so prohibitive that they just total it and give the owner a check. Lord knows a wrecked car never drives the same as it did beforehand, and in a Porsche, you feel the road and car so much that the difference would be very noticeable.

On the Boxster it might be that the insurance company does not believe the structural integrity of the car is intact considering it's a convertible.

We should get an insurance adjuster to tell us why. I'll call my agent and ask and report back here.
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Old 11-01-2005, 02:36 PM   #2
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OK! My insurance agent said if the damage is 60% or more of the car's present valuation, it's totaled. Or, if frame damage is present, that's it. It's totalled.

I'm betting that Boxsters can get frame damage quite easily. Mine had subframe damage with whacking a curb good and hard.
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:57 PM   #3
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Before you go lawyer up, find out from your insurance agent what your company will do for repairs and which garage they want to send it to that will guarantee the repairs. Find out what the other guy’s insurance carrier is willing to do. Then you can make an informed decision as to how to proceed. You can take your car to any place you want, but the insurers will usually stand by their garages and pay what their garages estimate your damage to be. Some will send independent appraisers to try to obtain an agreed price to repair your vehicle from a reputable garage of your choice. Find out from the insurance carriers how they wish to proceed.

Typically insurance companies will “total” a car if the repairs plus the salvage value of the vehicle (bids they get from auto salvage dealers) equal the actual cash value (ACV) of the car, or there is enough damage (frame damage, engine damage) that suggests eventually the repairs plus salvage will equal or exceed ACV. Your state’s insurance regulations (your agent knows these by heart) will tell you which car value guide is acceptable for total losses (NADA, Kelly, etc). But remember, it is only a guide. If your car is totaled out, work on ways to show the carrier its true value. Check newspapers want adds for the values of comparable cars and obviously bring them to the insurer’s attention if they exceed the value of yours. If there is something you have done to enhance the value of the vehicle beyond normal maintenance, now’s the time to bring that to light, too. Hopefully you have kept your receipts.

Sometimes when the figures come close to the ACV the insurance companies will total a car under the theory that they don’t want to marry the car (continue to pay for more hidden damages not apparent at the time of the inspection and have to deal with continued related problems down the line).

No matter what happens, if you feel your insurer or the other guy’s insurer is dealing from the bottom of the deck, call your state insurance department to find out what your rights are and whether they can review the claim to determine if the state insurance regulations have been met. Sometimes the mere suggestion of the insurance department intervention may free several more dollars from the insurance company in order to gain a settlement rather than have to face the scrutiny of an audit. (This lesson the smart adjuster learns fast.)

In the end, if you don’t like it, you can get a lawyer. Remember, however, lawyers cost money, sometimes $200-300 per hour.

Good luck.
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Old 11-01-2005, 07:37 PM   #4
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I am so glad my girlfriend is a lawyer. Despite all the disagreements we have and how she can never let me win, I totally appreciate what she can do now.
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Old 12-10-2005, 10:53 AM   #5
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Finally got her back. Took over a mth and a half but the job was done nicely. No allignment issue nor unibody damage. That's a blessing. I found a set of fiberglass side skirts off Ebay for $260. Installation/paint was $445. Glad to have her back.
Sorry for the grainy pic, taken from the camera phone.
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:12 AM   #6
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fefyfo, your car looks great. Congrats! Love the side skirts. What bumper is that?
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:21 AM   #7
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the aero kit 2 aka gt3 bumper. Looks a lot more aggresive. It's a little low however. I semi bottomed out last night. I would never lower the car after having this kit. Thanks for the compliment.
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