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OK, maybe I shouldn't have said ALL conditions! Sub-40° with ANY moisture could spell serious trouble with Summer-only tires.
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so who is paying? and how much?
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Put it in first gear and move off slowly. I look in the rearview and there are a few cars that are careful to keep their distance from me. Oopsie. |
Don't know if the OP has had driving instruction, but I spun my Boxster a few months after buying it and I had several seasons of autocross under my belt at the time. Luckily because i knew which way to turn the wheel when the back end gets jumpy I avoided a wreck with a parked car that was inches away. Yep...it was wet out.
When you transition from slow to faster while turning the wheel on wet ground...you better be used to quick flicks of the wheel and good with quick reactions. I was really stunned at how quickly the car did a full 180. The car is neutral but isn't loyal about it. |
I lost the rear end of a non-PSM '97 Boxster going quite slowly in a hairpin in Tasmania. It's certainly easy enough to do if the road is slick (which this one was) and if you apply the power a bit earlier than you should have (which I did). Fortunately I was going slowly enough to not slide into the retaining wall as it was a rental car and had a rather exciting insurance excess.
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The mid-engine Box has a lower moment of inertia than a front or rear engine car. The car is more likely to spin. Just as when figure skaters spinning pull their arms and legs in closer to their bodies, there is a remarkable increase in spin. No gettin around it.
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Thanks for the memories. I think I was about 19 when I spun my X1/9 on a freeway off ramp. Did a 360 and banged off both walls. Bald tires, wet pavement, too much speed and the characteristics of a mid-engine car. |
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it does not take much to spin a boxster in the wet . PSM is a great system for those conditions . The damage he got is what you would get in any other car . no car can handle side impacts to the suspension and drive components .
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There's no snap oversteer issues in the Boxster unlike the Toyota MR2... sounds like someone either has bald rear tires or suspension problem...
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The fix is counter intuative, stay on the gas so the car doesn't slow and countersteer, but it happens so fast that its hard to resist lifting and braking. |
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unfortunately the roads in the Uk are not as good as they should, or could be..
in some areas they are not unlike some that could be found around Lagos. :mad: what with worn surfaces, often damp and debris accumulating on the roads it doesn't take much, i've managed to 270 mine like it seems other have done. also a bit of diesel spill on a damp road can make the sphincter tighten. |
Besides the fact that going only 15MPH in a Boxster in a roundabout is improbable. I am not surprised by the damage you listed. Think about it, 2000 lb's of metal is coming to a complete stop, and all of that energy is going through the rims, hubs, etc.
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Today I was watching a re-run of Top Gear and they made a comment that the old 911's were so prone to spinning in the wet that people would go roundabouts when it was raining to "watch bankers climb trees with their 911s."
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