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Brockmeister 07-03-2012 03:54 PM

Horn Problem
 
Hi Folks,
Has anybody had a problem with the horn being too sensitive? If I hit the brakes really hard, the horn blows. Can I take the airbag cover off without disconnecting the battery? I've had a lot of cars, but none with this problem.:confused:

Speedy164 07-04-2012 12:07 AM

I just got this same problem started doing it today, sometimes randomly honks when i step on the brake and turning to the next street.. i need help with this as well

vath2001 07-04-2012 02:10 AM

Airbag bracket. The bushing are wearing out. Two options: Try to use some hose or tubing to reinforce the bushing... or spend $60 buck at Suncoast Porsche for a new bracket.

Brockmeister 07-04-2012 09:34 AM

Thanks for the info Vath. I searched online and Rennlist has quite a few threads on the topic. It appears that this is common for the 996's as well. I put some stiff foam pieces where the grommets are, giving the horn connection more resistance. took about an hour. If this craps out I will get the actual bracket later. I could now replace it in about a 1/2 hour.

Mark_T 07-04-2012 07:56 PM

3rd option: buy a 3-spoke wheel!

SeanZ4 07-05-2012 07:43 AM

I have the 3-spoked wheel. My '00S was doing this before I bought the car. It was one of the things the p-dealer fixed up front. It didn't have anything to do with the steering wheel horn switch but rather down and up front at the horns themselves. I think there was a rubber gasket / grommet or something like that, that had fallen out or worn out. The horn was making contact with the bracket and going off every time the brakes were applied... I don't know?? just another thought???

Brockmeister 07-05-2012 09:55 AM

Sean, you are correct. As I stated earlier, I fixed the problem with foam. I also called Suncoast and they said the part costs $62 bucks. My foam fix was free.

jesseborgelt 07-27-2012 06:21 PM

My horn started honking when the brakes were applied. I read this forum and found sound advice. I choose to try an alternative that worked and I thought I would share. I removed the two screws and pulled out the airbag. I then loosened the 4 bolts and removed the bracket. I applied a few beads of glue from a hot glue gun around the bushings, allowing it to dry briefly between the two layers. The end result is a fast fix that can immediately be reinstalled. The glue is semi-flexible when dry and is similar to the bushing in my opinion. Total cost under $1.

RandallNeighbour 07-27-2012 07:32 PM

Sheesh. I paid $212 at a dealer for this my first week of ownership 8 years ago :0

jesseborgelt 07-27-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RandallNeighbour (Post 299446)
Sheesh. I paid $212 at a dealer for this my first week of ownership 8 years ago :0

Damn, $211 savings..... :eek:

milliemax 07-28-2012 04:09 AM

Randall, Don't feel bad as the PO paid $339.40 to replace the pad and retaining frame @ 79511 miles.

les 07-08-2013 09:43 AM

I am about to replace for the 3rd time ('99 with 105k). First time I tried all the fixes to beef up the rubber grommets that were failing. Worked for awhile and then failed. So I got a new bracket. Just a crap design. Air bag weighs too much and it will eventually wear out the thin rubber. Right now it is beep/beeping when it gets really hot out and the rubber becomes real pliable. Soon it will happen even on a cool day. I found a Torx unit at Home Depot that was long enough to engage for under $10 and has multiple other Torx heads on it as a bonus.

mistermac99 07-08-2013 12:31 PM

My horn is not blowing, except when I touch it, but man is it ever sensitive to touch. I can just rest my hand on top of the air back section, and it blows.

Is this normal, or is mine getting ready to have the same issues as above?

yellowboxsters 07-08-2013 01:12 PM

I've got the 3 spoke steering wheel in mine and the horn started working intermittently and now does not work at all. Is it the airbag carrier or something else? Tried pressing both sides of the airbag cover where the horn markings are but to no avail.

Rob175 08-01-2013 09:32 AM

SIMPLE SIMPLE FIX.....I bought a package of black foam weather stipping at Home depot.....cut a few small pieces, pulled off the sticky side tape so all I had was just black foam and using a small dull blade neatly pushed it in the 4 spaces located on the 4 steering wheel spokes between the horn plate and the round steering wheel...........they prevent the horn from jiggling and going off prematurely......tokk 10 minutes and cost about $5...........It lasts for about 4 years before I need to replace the foam with newer foam.........have done it twice in 10 yrs.

Rob175 08-01-2013 09:35 AM

A VERY SIMPLE SIMPLE FIX.....I bought a package of black foam weather stipping at Home depot.....cut a few small pieces, pulled off the sticky side tape so all I had was just black foam and using a small dull blade neatly pushed it in the 4 spaces located on the 4 steering wheel spokes between the horn plate and the round steering wheel...........they prevent the horn from jiggling and going off prematurely......tokk 10 minutes and cost about $5...........It lasts for about 4 years before I need to replace the foam with newer foam.........have done it twice in 10 yrs.

Gregtenerife 08-02-2013 01:33 PM

I recently did mine but all I did was bend the brackets outward by a couple of milimeters in each of the four corners where the horn contacts are. It took me about ten minutes.

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Gregtenerife 08-02-2013 11:43 PM

Thanks I may try that next time:o)

pk2 08-04-2013 09:15 AM

There are 4 little bushing that hold the horn rail.It's a metal frame behind the air bag. I had the same prob.Slam the bakes on and feel like an idiot, honking at everybody Almost had the Sh_t kicked out of me more than once

Use 3m black silicone rubber, Loosen up the pegs and squeeze it in around those 4 pegs, let it solve over nite, not to much, may have to trim some the horn works without standing on it

bobbyg 11-19-2013 02:03 AM

Thanks guys for this info. I try some of the advices tomorrow.

I had this problem started two days ago. At first it started honking every time I drive on top of a speed bump, at very low speed, and then, even while turning at corners or roundabout. At one stage I felt so very embarrassed. going to work, turning at a roundabout with a fair bit of traffic, it started honking again, and damn it's loud!! Roof top down, there was no escaping the look on everybody's faces looking at me as if I'm the village idiot, in a Porsche!!! lol

So much for a Porsche ey? :-).

Cheers and thanks again for the good work guys.

paintboy 11-19-2013 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vath2001 (Post 296393)
Airbag bracket. The bushing are wearing out. Two options: Try to use some hose or tubing to reinforce the bushing... or spend $60 buck at Suncoast Porsche for a new bracket.

I wedged a piece of thin black cardboard in the gap at the top of the wheel....that was 2 years ago...horn still works when I want it to but no longer lets me know every time I run over a dime...

rburro2 05-13-2015 12:11 PM

I recently bought a 2000 Boxster. I noticed the horn didn't work. So I checked fuse B3 and it was blown. When I replaced the fuse the horn was as if someone was holding it on, without the steering wheel being touched, until the fuse blew again. Obviously there is a horn switch in the steering wheel. Will the rubber bushing behind the bracket cause this?

Pdwight 05-13-2015 12:20 PM

Not too get to elektronikal
 
But most folks have no idea how much current a horn uses when that giant buzzer is running....it is substantial ....many amps

healthservices 05-13-2015 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rburro2 (Post 449564)
I recently bought a 2000 Boxster. I noticed the horn didn't work. So I checked fuse B3 and it was blown. When I replaced the fuse the horn was as if someone was holding it on, without the steering wheel being touched, until the fuse blew again. Obviously there is a horn switch in the steering wheel. Will the rubber bushing behind the bracket cause this?

When the air bag frame makes contact with the ground in the steering wheel this is what makes the horn blow. So yes the rubber bushing is part of the horn switch, it is what holds the air bag frame from grounding out.

Pdwight 05-13-2015 06:23 PM

I thought the IMS held it in place

healthservices 05-14-2015 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdwight (Post 449613)
I thought the IMS held it in place


If you are thinking that the rotors are worn out and causing the issue, maybe you should email ECS first.

Pdwight 05-14-2015 06:04 PM

Actually
 
I was thinking a combination of roller and ball bearings interlaced might be the solution

antny 05-14-2015 06:22 PM

If anyones horns are actually inop let me know. Im literally about to install hella horns on mine.

Pdwight 05-14-2015 06:44 PM

hella you say :rolleyes:

antny 05-14-2015 09:21 PM

HAHA, have you heard Hella Supertones before? They are significantly louder than stock horns.


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