Wow, I bet you were a joy to work for! :cheers:

Fugliest Boxster I've seen yet.

Green exterior with a tan and black interior? Huh???

I don't know I think maybe the green thing only works (quiet well) with Carreras.

Why, oh why did I drive an 03 Boxster S with 25k miles??? Yellow, Litronic, heated seats...and that wail when you're accelerating onto C-470!!!...They're asking $22,995 Which more than doubles my budget...now I just have to try and justify it to myself!

Max
Why are you so angry. Do my skills scare you. I am young and I think I have summed you up already. I buy cars as a hobby I am not in the automotive industry. I am giving the op some car purchasing advice, I have purchased over 35 cars in my life time and I am only 36 and never have lost a dime on a vehicle. I must be doing something right. Let me make some guesses about you. You are getting near the age of retirement, your boxster is your first p car, you are obsessed and proud of a business you built up, you are not that mechanically inclined and have grown quite bitter over the years. Have I met payroll? Yep! But financially I do not need to worry about wether I wil make it or not. I am talking about purchasing skills not sales. Maybe if you would calm down and try and make friends your "million dollar company"would be a multi - million dollar company. I am not going to get into financial stats as that is rather 4th class but you may want to watch what battles you start. I may be young but it seems you have more growing up to do.

This statement carries the fine stench of BS:

"I have purchased over 35 cars in my life time and I am only 36 and never have lost a dime on a vehicle. I must be doing something right"

Having said that nobody can sum anyone up on the internet, it's not a good humanity measuring device. Regarding marketing and business, I too have some street cred in that arena. One thing will be true forever, you are only as good as the results you are posting in real time, what happened yesterday is moot.

for the record, I would personally not try to low-ball a private seller with these sort of tactics.
I try to buy trade-ins from dealers. I rather beat them up and here in NJ that leaves some recourse if there is a major issue. I've done this in Florida as well where the consumer isn't as well protected but the prices tend to be lower and the average buyer less willing to pay up.
I like to bust balls when the person is actually getting payed to get their balls busted.

PLap, I hear you loud and clear. However I must say this, I was both respected by CFO's and treated as you suggest. I can tell you I certainly did not give the beaters any better deal and would reward the people of altruism with whatever legal perks we could throw.

PS My dad was in the car business and I don't know anyone who had a 35 car string of zero loss turnovers, I suppose it depends quite a bit on how one defines breaking even or profiting.

Fair enough, on my way home from work I will stop by my garage and I will take some photos of my cars and I will let you be the judge in real time

I'm sure your cars are nice, the notion you buy them, drive them and sell them in a way that costs you nothing and have accomplished that feat thirty six times straight is all I question. I get buying broken and fixing, as I said we had a car dealership, cars were our business.

When I stated that I have never lost a dime on a vehicle I have broken even and the most I have ever cleared is around 15k. My job is to low ball people and contractors and get the best value for my money. I am in the construction and development business and employ 64 full timers and deal with hundreds of contractors a week. I buy and work on cars as a stress relief. So if the op is looking how to get the best deal I think of myself as good instructor. I am planning on selling one of my 928s4s in the next couple weeks and will post the a bill of sale when I get rid of the car. This particular car is an 88 and I have $2500 in the car now. I am changing the tb wp interior suspension wheels and exhaust and I am hoping to get a profit of at least 3k.

Remember I did not start this. Max wants to try and sum me up as a third class citizen and assumed I do not know what I am doing. He got very angry at my sarcastic advice and must have been taken advantage of before. Not my problem. But remember the old saying if you assume you may make an ......

I got no dog in this fight, I'm simply stating that the idea that thirty six times in a row you pulverized people so effectively that you never had a hiccup unexpected and lost money on these cars you flip still has an aroma.

I must say that I like buying from a person I like and trust. I am not being judgemental of anybody here. I ended up buying a Boxster. I liked the car and understood where the seller was coming from. I did look at a 911 but found the seller creepy. The 911 needed work and I just happened to like the Boxster better.
The seller's personality is very important and can indicate if regular maintenance has been done or not. When I sell a car I have to look hard in the mirror because I like to treat others as I would have them treat me. Yes I know that I have lost my man up card....again!

Ghost I have no Problem with you, I have not pulverized every seller on every car I have bought and I have broke even tons of times on resale but luckily I have not lost any money to date. I have thought many times I was getting a killer deal and run into every surprise known but I have been fortunate and still been able to break even or make some change. For instance the s4 I am getting rid of sat for 5 years and did not run when I picked it up. I figured I could part the car and still make money. I was lucky that one if the ecus was shot and I had one at the shop and after a little work I am now going to do quite well. I am not the best seller, I will drop on price rather quickly but I try and inform the purchaser of everything I know and most cars I have owned I have gone through with a fine tooth comb. I used to be a performance VW and Audi shop owner and was a mechanic for 6 years 3 of which I worked at a Porsche dealer in Aachen. This has saved me multiple times from bad purchases and I am willing to walk any time.

You are right on how people determine loss. Financially I calculate the time driving the car as a gain and my time working on cars is a stress relief for me so my time is not considered.

maybe the experts can chime in but I find that if you deal with a private seller and the car craps out you're SOL. A dealer, depending on the state, has to guarantee certain things which means they propbably check it out before they low-ball the person trading it in. People often leave a lot of money on the table when trading in cars so that leaves some negotiaing room for the new buyer to come along. Often times the dealer is desperate to bring in cash and will simply unload the car at BEP or ship it to some dealer auction venue that deals with excess inventory (Manheim, PA?).
I bought my car with barely 9K miles as a trade in. spotless. The salesman was brand new out college eager to make a sale and the old owner seemed in a hurry to get into a new car. I received a 1 year powertrain warranty and the bank and Ebay (wher it was originally listed) had some deal going where I got an additional disount. None of this would have happened going through a nice friendly private owner who could have turned into a major a-hole if thigns went sour after the sale "yeah so the engine blew up? too bad". Not to mention everyone thinks they're Porsche is worth 20% more than it actually ever is. Myself included. :p
With the dealer CPO and trade-ins there is this much emotional attachment: 0

Boxsters are in a league of their own also. I have seen them range from $2500- $20k + which has included rollers to showroom cars. We are talking about 986s now and no offense to anyone they were entry level Pcars but they still are Pcars. We also have to remember that there are tons out their in the market so it is a buyers market. So the OP should be aggressive with his buying tactics and can easily walk away from many. Everyone always thinks their car is golden and very very few actually are. I have always dealt with private owners, wholesale auctions, but I have never dealt with a Dealer and every car I have purchased I always assume the purchase "as is". It is important not to get emotionally attached to any car until it is yours!

haha dont tell 996 owners that their cars share almost everything from the doors forward with the "entry level" P-car

I am 33,pushing 20 something cars and can definitely say I have never made a penny on any of them lol

I once bought a 74 Audi 100LS for $150 and sold it 3 years later for $250! Never got it running. :)

Other than that, I'm a 100% loser on car deals. (Of course, I've never bought one for the purpose of flipping it. I always use 'em up. Unless I can never get it to run)

Dear Amschnellsten, Sorry I am late getting back to you as I spend most of my time making sure my employees/partners are going to get PAID. This insures that their families live in a nice home with food ,cash and INSURANCE. Yes, your skills do SCARE me ! Retirement ? NEVER as long as I have the responsibility to my people that of what I promised. This is not an insult but a strong word of advice....go back to school and finish your formal education. It will be worth far more than your used car endeavor. Once you are at that point ,then you will have the chance to....open your own PORSCHE dealership. I promise that I will THEN, and ONLY THEN be one of your good customers ....for life. I promise. PS My company is Multi- million! Go back and read your mistakes. Best Regards, MAX

Max, Million dollar businesses never protected anyone from being condescending and narcissistic.

let's see if we can get this thread back on the rails... any updates speak? did you go for the gray one? i think i saw it on craigslist a few days ago.

Speaklow, I noticed that you are looking on Autotrader which is a good place to look, I hope you have not made any decisions yet there are tons out there. Craigslist is a good place to look but you must be careful. If you use this search engine you can scan all the CLs
SearchTempest - The EASY way to search Craigslist
Put in you location and how far you are willing to travel and you will be able to come up with multiple vehicles.

Ebay holds a lot of crap cars and for the most part you will not be able to check any out personally.
Scan the for sale sections on Rennlist.com, Pelican Parts - Error: Page Not Found

Good luck mate and I hope you find what you are looking for!



AS far as Max, very weak comeback and you are on my radar.

I am on your radar ? Oh please, you remind me of my punk nephew who went to wall street and slept in a tent. I think he is still there. Do you know him ? MAX

Max enough is enough. Seriously. Your comebacks are lame and baseless. I scanned through your past posts and you have very little to offer this forum. If I need a hood cable fixed I will not call you as it seems to be the only thing you know and you probably searched for it. If you scan back through this thread you will realize I have given multiple forms of advice while you just left your negative little man complex comments that are totally useless. It's tough for you and I understand.

After reading your past posts I realize that I did some you up pretty well, you are proud of your business, this is your first P-car, and you are not mechanically inclined. On the other hand the only part you got right about me was that I am younger and stronger than you. I have noticed that this is not the first fight you have started.

I was just trying to help the op with buying advice, I currently own 11 cars (5 Porsches), eight motorcycles, and three vespsas and they are hobbies. So maybe, I may know a little more about this than you.

I love your little Wall Street comment. Let me guess you are a strong republican. Let me guess besides your comments you do very little to support your cause. Once again you summed me up wrong. Go figure. Not that politics should have anything to do with this but I was in Washington for the rally. If you know what I am talking about you will know you failed again.

amsch...

I must agree, with others here, your statements lead us to believe that you are likely less than honest.

"I picked up my 00 2.7 for $5500 he was asking $10500."

I seriously doubt this.

"I was able to find a complete black glass top with frame for $350."

Id love to know where you found this.

"Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal"

That is just creepy as hell.

"Then lowball the hell out of him. See is he comes down at all and maybe come up just a hair. If he does not take the offer leave your number and let him know that you need to check your finances. Tell him that you want the car(if you do) and walk away!!"

Lowball the hell out of him? Really??

"This method works 95% of the time. I have been using this method for years and used it last week. I purchased an 04 Discovery for $2700 when the asking was $6200"

Again...I seriously doubt this.

"I have purchased over 35 cars in my life time and I am only 36 and never have lost a dime on a vehicle"

Come on.......BS.

"My job is to low ball people and contractors and get the best value for my money."

Sounds kinda low class to me.

Seriously, did max run out and contact you to help you win his battle.


1. I did purchase my 00 for my wife, the car was purchased at auction in Orlando by a dealer, His original asking price was $10,500 then lowered to $8000. The car had a torn top and a blown engine mount (you can check my other thread) I imagine that everyone that test drove the car was scarred off by the thump that occurred on every shift. Yes I did low ball the guy and offered him $5k, he said that he could not do that because he had $5k in the car. He later called back after he was unable to move the car due to a faulty ignition switch. We then settled on $5500.

2. I was able to get my top for $350 because I used to own a Performance shop and dealt with a large yard in Northern Ohio and became very good friends with the owners Son who has now taken over the yard. If you are looking for something please let me know and I will try and find the best deal for you.

3. My original statement "Spend the first half hour focusing on the seller and what they do, family, friends, pets, interests ect... After a half an hour the seller will feel as you are a close friend and everyone always wants give a friend a deal" had a bit of sarcasm in it. I was merely telling people to focus on the seller for the first half an hour to learn more about the seller and their habits and try and make a new friend. There is nothing wrong with that. Would you give a friend a deal?

4. Low ball? Why not? It's your money.

5.I paid $2700 for the Disco, for multiple reasons, The Po needed to buy a Mini van for his upcoming family. I found the drivers side head gasket weeping and the "three amigos were lit up". The Dealer only offered him $2k as a trade in and after he learned that I am an aficionado and knew what I was talking about he was very happy with my offer. Since the transaction he called back to know if I was interested in the roof rack also. Man he must hate me. If you knew a little about Rovers you would know that they are a bottomless pit for repairs and their value reflects it.

6. If you would look at my previous posts you would realize that when I said that "I have never lost a dime" you would understand how I determine value. I do not count my time in for repairs that I do myself, and that I count driving time as as value. For instance if I buy a car for for $10k, drive the car for two years, and sell the car for $9.5 I have not lost money. It's simple economics.

7.my statement "My job is to low ball people and contractors and get the best value for my money." I own a Real Estate company and I am a developer by trade and if you knew anything about my field you would understand the typical contractor. I do very well and I am well respected. Once again Max thinks I need formal education. I believe my degree in Architecture and Construction Management from DAAP is formal enough.

8. calling me low class again, Come on.............................. I have already admitted that I would rather be 3rd class than a first class ass like Max.



If you would also look back at the previous posts there are many that agree with me. I should have left the out the sarcasm out of my original post on buying skills and just told the op to make friends for the first half an hour. For that I apologize. Look back Max started out with the name calling.

No name calling here....simply my observations.

Fair enough, If you do need anything for your car please feel free to PM me. I have some decent connections for new and used parts.:cheers:

OK Amschnellsten, I said "Your strategy" is 3rd class. But anyway, YOU ARE FIRED ! You will be escorted out without pay. Like I said "I would not let you anywhere near my home , family or business. Grow up and go back to school. MR. Max to you.

Update! I am going to look at a 99 Boxster with 53k miles tomorrow. The owner has had it for 10 years and has all the records. Its triple black, sport design with hardtop! I have a very good feeling about this guy and his car...He's had Porsches for years and speaks very fondly of them. I'll report back with my findings tomorrow...

Bought a Boxster!
 

I found it! 2001 Boxster S, 66k miles, Seal Gray with Boxster Red interior, Litronic, Heated Seats, PSM and a full dealer service history...Its going immediately to Poudre Motorsports for a new clutch, IMS, RMS. I got the car for $11,500 and its costing about $3k at Poudre. I'm beyond excited! Thank you all for your help!http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1333600624.jpg

Nice choice!

:cheers:Great choice and great color combo!