Let's Play: Guess How Much

[Ghostrider 310]

You're stuck too far in your own fantasy then guy because I've read over the years about the "mods", no revelations there my friend. When you stuff a bigger motor in it let me know, till then I'll assume my new ride will smoke it out of the box with 320 on tap @ 7200 and seven speeds that can be grabbed faster than you can think about.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310

You're stuck too far in your own fantasy then guy because I've read over the years about the "mods", no revelations there my friend. When you stuff a bigger motor in it let me know, till then I'll assume my new ride will smoke it out of the box with 320 on tap @ 7200 and seven speeds that can be grabbed faster than you can think about.

I'm sure that the new Spyder in it's stock form is a great vehicle, and perhaps the most performance oriented boxster to date . Moreover, despite it's "bikini" top, I'm sure that it's refined enough to satisfy you and any soccer mom out there. However, for any serious minded "tuner" or track enthusiast, the first things to go on this vehicle would be the wheels, suspension, cat back exhaust, headers, cats , ecu re-map ect.. When you or anyone else has accomplished this, you can keep your crack, I'll bring the cigars, scotch and fair ladies .

[jacabean]

i must agree , these old boxsters are limited , no matter how much modification is done . don't get me wrong i love my Boxster but when i take my jap crap evo X for a spin it is clear in every category (except build quality) that it will whip the old 986 S . the evo X lightly tuned will most likely tool a Boxster Spyder as well and for a fraction of the cost.
I do understand where Johnny D. is coming from when he says that the ferrari is on another level because it is.

[Ghostrider 310]

My last word on it JD, what you are proposing is that the newest technology from Porsche is easily beaten in performance by simple mods as the ones you describe performed on their older cars, what can I say except I disagree. If you had done some serious engine mods the kind that require dis assembly then I might, might buy your claim. But the "cards in the spokes" tweaks you are talking about, to say two pro drivers one in a spyder and one in the JD prepared race car, to say your car would win is nothing short of delusional.


It won't matter anyhow, I now know why the prices are skyrocketing, no more new spyders so what's left is going to be too much, looks like I'm S shopping now.

[The Radium King]

the spyder has an 11.4 hp/weight ration (hp*100/weight) where as the 986S has 8.9. even losing 200 lb and gaining 35 hp (the max you probably could expect with bolt-ons and a streetable weight loss program) you would still only hit 10.9.

a 987S, however, could easily be converted. from wiki:

... the Boxster Spyder will be the lightest Porsche on the market, weighing 2,811 pounds, a full 176 pounds lighter than a Boxster S. This has been achieved through the elimination of the conventional soft top's operating mechanism, the radio/PCM unit, air conditioning, storage compartments, handles, cupholders and large LED light modules on the front fascia. The vehicle will ride on a firmer suspension than the other Boxster models, and will also be almost one inch lower in order to have firmer handling. A manually operated canvas top, sports bucket seats and two signature humps running along the back of the vehicle provide characteristic design elements. It will offer a six-cylinder boxer engine with 320 horsepower and 273 lb·ft of torque, a 10 hp increase over the engine in the Boxster S and the same engine used in the related Cayman S.

so, a/c delete, gt3 seats, remove roof motors, PSS9 suspension, lightweight battery, lightweight wheels, RS door pulls, intake, exhaust, tune, etc., will get you there. $10k in upgrades; more if you want it to look like the spyder (and not just perform like it).

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Ghostrider 310

My last word on it JD, what you are proposing is that the newest technology from Porsche is easily beaten in performance by simple mods as the ones you describe performed on their older cars, what can I say except I disagree. If you had done some serious engine mods the kind that require dis assembly then I might, might buy your claim. But the "cards in the spokes" tweaks you are talking about, to say two pro drivers one in a spyder and one in the JD prepared race car, to say your car would win is nothing short of delusional.


It won't matter anyhow, I now know why the prices are skyrocketing, no more new spyders so what's left is going to be too much, looks like I'm S shopping now.

First of all, at no time did I say that the technology of the 986 platform surpassed that of the new Spyder . Rather, the premise of my remarks was to suggest, by comparison one could create a very formidable performer out of a 986 for much less money; provided that the modifications were executed in a well planned and methodical manner . Furthermore, if you think that performance mods from the likes of 9FF, M&M Exhaust Germany, Fvd/Brombacher, Evolution Motorsports, Champion Motorsports, and Hamann just to name a few are "card in the spokes", then you're a bigger jackass than I thought you were . But, please go spend 90k on a 310 hp vehicle with a 2 cent bikini top .