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My friend has the Valentine and likes it very much. I really could care less about the arrows..... if it goes off I hammer on the brakes, I don't care if it's in front, to the side or behind me- I slow down no matter what. Where I live they used nothing but Ka band or laser.... lots of laser and my Bell picks up signals a fraction of a second before my friends valintine when we did a little test in his car. The bell is also upgradeable and can pick up other warning systems aswell. I thought about the 8500 but a fellow I know has one and it has broken down several times over the year he's owned it, maybe he just got a lemon. Just my two cents worth but I just never got what everybody sees in the arrows.
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