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[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Funny thing is....we all still love our Porsches !!

[blue2000s]

Originally Posted by tonycarreon

according to consumer reports recent report, "Porsche plunged to second worst brand overall from its ranking last year as second-best."

This tells you how much these surveys are worth in the first place.

[jotoole]

Originally Posted by blue2000s

This tells you how much these surveys are worth in the first place.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[Ghostrider 310]

I'll get another one, it will be under warranty and driven far harder than my broken cream puff.

[stateofidleness]

I had an '86 944 that was beautiful, never any issues. 2 914's (still have one of them) that is an older car, so hard to compare the two: air-cooled vs water is a big difference.
I have the window rattle too (window down, both sides rattle). The box, even though it's 11 years old has been kinda problematic (minor stuff like trim and things), but there's some stuff that has broken that i've said to myself "really?? this is a porsche!" (plastic convertible top, console lid hinge, ignition switch). Maybe I just expected more from a car with a $50k sticker price!

[fivepointnine]

Originally Posted by stateofidleness

I had an '86 944 that was beautiful, never any issues. 2 914's (still have one of them) that is an older car, so hard to compare the two: air-cooled vs water is a big difference.
I have the window rattle too (window down, both sides rattle). The box, even though it's 11 years old has been kinda problematic (minor stuff like trim and things), but there's some stuff that has broken that i've said to myself "really?? this is a porsche!" (plastic convertible top, console lid hinge, ignition switch). Maybe I just expected more from a car with a $50k sticker price!

nah, I dont expect much from 50k cars, our Saab 9-3 SE convertible was around 46k in 2001 and the top on that shreds a microswitch every 6 months, a vert top cover u-joint about once every other year, eats CV axles for breakfast, the pixels on the central display have been MIA for about 3 years now, the ignition cassettes will randomly fail leaving you stranded, sludge will kill the motors instantly if you go over 3.5k for an oil change (10k was the recommendation from the factory) but on the positive note the thermostat stuck open on my drive to work this morning....112k miles on the original thermostat is pretty good in my book:dance:

the boxster has 1 major engine issue that shows up in a select amount of cars (and even the aftermarket companies say frequent oil changes and oil type can reduce this risk) the convertible top is a very simple design compared to alot of them and more accessible to the mechanicals of it too...I LOVE my boxster.

My BMW X3 has been relatively trouble free though, it has 67k miles on it, I have the CCV fail at 62k (same thing as the Porsche AOS) and the intake boot developed a rip at about 60k miles, besides that its been happy motoring there.....but it is SLOW

[fivepointnine]

ALL my vehicles have serious engine issues that have popped up on other cars

Boxster-IMS/RMS issues
Saab-severe sludge issues/random loss of all oil pressure going down the highway@70
BMW X3-transfer case tends to explode, front diffs explode, trannys dont last past 60k miles, CCV fail causing oil hydrolock which leads to blown head gaskets or engine failure....etc etc etc

if you dig deep enough into most cars, they will have known issues


hands down the least reliable vehicle I owned was a 2001 Ford Explorer 5.0 awd, just throwing that out there

[smshirk]

I've had 3 M96 cars with no engine issues. Just lucky I guess, but I don't believe the IMS failures are as pervasive as the forums indicate. We only hear about the problems here generally speaking.

Every model of 911 had its issues out of the gate. The 993 requires a 10-15k top end rebuild to turn off a CEL. The 2.7s are considered inferior and the SC, now considered to be bullet proof did not come with hydraulic tensioners. That was a fix in 84 that had to be applied to the 2.7s and 3.0s, that's 10 years worth of 911s with hardy doors!

My only point is that Porsche has always been the way they are now with IMS/RMS issues. If you buy new, they usually take care of you even out of warranty on this kind of stuff, but if you buy somewhere else, that car is no longer their problem. It's not unusual for car manufacturers. I think Porsche should hold themselves to a higher standard, but they never have and they have never been very open about failure percentages either, even after redesigning away a known problem. We keep buying them because they are so much fun to drive and we get hooked. It's an addiction that I've had for 30 years.

As for the tops and windows on Boxsters compared to the Targa tops and early 911 Cabs, there is really no comparison, the 986 is far superior in design, comfort, noise, and especially they don't leak!