06-25-2011, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mmontfort
Why did I spend the money to replace the bearing in a car barely worth that much. Because I can. And when this Porsche Corolla finally blows up, I will go pay cash for something worth the money, a Corvette ZR-1. And I will let this Porsche piece of crap rust in the backyard. Why, because I can.
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This is close to the dumbest statement I have ever heard.
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06-25-2011, 06:21 PM
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In relative numbers, there are probably few 986s out there that are upgraded.
In the coming years, there will certainly be many more cars with the IMSR on the market.
As this upgrade proves itself, I firmly believe that retrofitted cars will easily fetch $1k more than cars that don't have the upgrade.
Time will tell but I'm taking the route of action rather than apathy.
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06-25-2011, 06:28 PM
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The problem is these engines have a couple of other failure modes, upgrading the IMS only fixes one of them.
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06-26-2011, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul
The problem is these engines have a couple of other failure modes, upgrading the IMS only fixes one of them.
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That is my concern. IIRC, one expert mentions 10 or more modes of failure.
That is why I have ordered the IMSG, even though I may yet get the IMS upgrade.
Last edited by jotoole; 06-26-2011 at 03:21 AM.
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06-25-2011, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Series9
In relative numbers, there are probably few 986s out there that are upgraded.
In the coming years, there will certainly be many more cars with the IMSR on the market.
As this upgrade proves itself, I firmly believe that retrofitted cars will easily fetch $1k more than cars that don't have the upgrade.
Time will tell but I'm taking the route of action rather than apathy.
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The failure rate is approx 2%-3%. No one is going to pay $1,000 premium when they can buy hundreds of other cars for less and have a 97% sucess rate.
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06-26-2011, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by thstone
The failure rate is approx 2%-3%. No one is going to pay $1,000 premium when they can buy hundreds of other cars for less and have a 97% sucess rate.
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I'm not sure where you get your 2-3% numbers. Certainly the only company that has a sample large enough to be valid is Porsche, and they will never let us see the numbers.
As the owner of a Porsche service facility, I can tell you that my experience is a failure rate MUCH higher than 3%. Double-digits for sure. But, my sample is relatively small, so I won't waste your time by quoting numbers.
You said "no one will pay more.....". As you can see in a post that almost immediately follows that statement, we have a person in CA who is looking to do exactly that.
There's no point in arguing about it. Let's wait and see.
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01-02-2012, 06:02 PM
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Matt
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Location: Colorado
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Originally Posted by Series9
I'm not sure where you get your 2-3% numbers. Certainly the only company that has a sample large enough to be valid is Porsche, and they will never let us see.
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This is about 6 months after the fact but my dealership, which sells and services most of the Porsches in the region has never seen an IMS failure. With your double-digit experience, are you sharing serial number, build sequence or model year/mileage data with Raby or other people making repairs or keeping data? Additionally since you are a Porsche repair facility, you comprehensive data might be what is needed to "urge" Porsche to cover these issues.
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06-26-2011, 06:29 AM
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Porscheectomy
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Location: Seattle Area
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Originally Posted by thstone
The failure rate is approx 2%-3%. No one is going to pay $1,000 premium when they can buy hundreds of other cars for less and have a 97% sucess rate.
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What data did you use to come up with that 2-3% number?
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