Why VR-1 as a flush oil?

[Flavor 987S]

Jake, I don't see you making these claims, or inciting this "fear" on Rennlist. Why only here on the 986forum? Maybe I'm missing something.

[Jake Raby]

CLS= Certified Lubrication Specialist

This isn't fear, its just plain information, perceive it as you like, but that is not the intent. Sorry I can't sugar coat it for ya and make it taste better.

The UOA we have collected from a test fleet of 14 vehicles, both aircooled and watercooled proves that the engines that saw a flush oil used prior to a major change in detergency and anti-wear packages had much better UOA thereafter.

Trust me, If I wanted to scare someone or a group of people all I'd have to do is share three paragraphs. Thats not my intent, never has been and never will be. I call it as I see it and deal with it every day.

Call it "fear" if you want, I call it reality. Some people can't handle that.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

CLS= Certified Lubrication Specialist

This isn't fear, its just plain information, perceive it as you like, but that is not the intent. Sorry I can't sugar coat it for ya and make it taste better.

The UOA we have collected from a test fleet of 14 vehicles, both aircooled and watercooled proves that the engines that saw a flush oil used prior to a major change in detergency and anti-wear packages had much better UOA thereafter.

Trust me, If I wanted to scare someone or a group of people all I'd have to do is share three paragraphs. Thats not my intent, never has been and never will be. I call it as I see it and deal with it every day.

Call it "fear" if you want, I call it reality. Some people can't handle that.

Jake, I don't doubt your knowledge, experience, work ethics and etc., but why do your 986forum post, as compared to your Rennlist post, mainly spell doom & gloom?

I've been wondering this for years.

Maybe you post more here than Rennlist. I don't know.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Flavor 987S

Jake, I don't doubt your knowledge, experience, work ethics and etc., but why do your 986forum post, as compared to your Rennlist post, mainly spell doom & gloom?

I've been wondering this for years.

Maybe you post more here than Rennlist. I don't know.

Or is the question is why do you perceive my posts here in a "doom and gloom" manner?

I don't believe my style is any different on any forums, I do post a lot more here than Rennlist, because I favor this forum and its atmosphere so much better.

I also NEVER SAID that if you did't use a flush oil that the engine would implode, just that the oil samples looked much better after this was done when changing oil.

[Mark_T]

Thanks for the response, Jake - I was hoping you would jump in here. Can you suggest any other oils that would be acceptable for flushing that might be less expensive and more readily available?

[baxster]

In Canada, tar sand works good. It's cheap from Alberta