thinking about selling my 03 S ? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

jacabean · 01-12-2011, 09:50 AM

I have been looking at the 2011 lancer evo mr touring brand new . i did have an evo 8 in the past and hated the cheapness about it but never had one issue with the car it was also a very fast and capable machine.
I am getting sick of all the boxster issues and cost of ownership. the worry of the engine blowing up every time i take it for a drive is ridiculous. I can get a loaded MR touring brand new with leather , nav and the more mature looking touring model , plus a twin clutch tranny for just under 40k . Have bulletproof performance and no worries at all . are any of you guy familar with the evo x and what are your thoughts on this vehicle ?

clickman · 01-12-2011, 10:02 AM

No car is bulletproof, but if you're constantly worried about the Boxster, it's probably time to move on.

ekam · 01-12-2011, 10:17 AM

Evo X weights like a pig... much bigger and heavier than any of the previous Evos.

The interior quality is still not up to par with its asking price. I was going to buy the Evo X before my box... I sat in it and thought to myself "Why am I paying money for this?"

Evo is like an amateur porn star with bodykit & huge spolier whereas the Boxster is an classy woman. Your choice.

jacabean · 01-12-2011, 10:23 AM

my biggest gripe with the evo is the cheap interior. nothing like my full leather boxster.

thstone · 01-12-2011, 12:49 PM

The EVO is a great car for $38,000 - but its not a $50,000 performance car that sells for under $40K.

Instead, its really a $25,000 econo car with $15,000 of upgrades in a turbo engine, sports suspension/wheels/tires, and performance exhaust. Yes, these are factory upgrades and not aftermarket bolt-ons, but there is no changing the econo box starting point.

As long as you know what you're getting and that's what you want, got for it.

xamfed · 01-12-2011, 01:01 PM

What issues are you having with your S?

jbs986 · 01-12-2011, 10:16 AM

I had a 2009 until I got rear ended by a 19 year old the was texting and totaled out my car.

These cars are awesome and way under rated, I loved mine. It was fast and reliable.I naver had a problem with mine.

A frend of mine just got a 2010 and I was able to drive his and it is way faster then my 2009. I say go for it.

BYprodriver · 01-13-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jacabean

I have been looking at the 2011 lancer evo mr touring brand new . i did have an evo 8 in the past and hated the cheapness about it but never had one issue with the car it was also a very fast and capable machine.
I am getting sick of all the boxster issues and cost of ownership. the worry of the engine blowing up every time i take it for a drive is ridiculous. I can get a loaded MR touring brand new with leather , nav and the more mature looking touring model , plus a twin clutch tranny for just under 40k . Have bulletproof performance and no worries at all . are any of you guy familar with the evo x and what are your thoughts on this vehicle ?

Wow how low has Porsche's reputation sank to consider "upgrading" to a Mitsu for peace of mind & reliability! I understand your thought process & I have thought about buying a EVO so I have a sedan to go with my boxster, bought a IS350 because of Lexus reputation & EVO depreciation. Just got IS350 back from dealer doing 3rd recall in 3 yrs., this time valvesprings recalled. I also agree with you that the Boxster is more fun to drive so I would just get your IMS bearing upgraded & enjoy the Boxster. It will be more cost effective to upgrade the car you have than to buy anything new.

jmatta · 01-13-2011, 09:43 AM

Apples and oranges...I don't get it...I would understand as a daily driver, but as a replacement?

Flavor 987S · 01-13-2011, 10:20 AM

I'd rather have a broken Porsche than a well running Evo.

ekam · 01-13-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jmatta

Apples and oranges...I don't get it...I would understand as a daily driver, but as a replacement?

Because "Evo's 0-60 time is 4.7 Sec. and it is an AWD car, That is fast."

Fast doesn't mean it's enjoyable. Enjoyment is harder to measure and with the new generation kids raised on Playstation, cars like Nissan GT-R is desirable because it fixes all the mistakes you make with AWD & computers and you can brag to your friends how fast your car can do in the Ring.

jacabean · 01-13-2011, 01:45 PM

think about it ? if you had to replace your Boxster with a reasonably priced performance oriented car what would you choose? The new 1 series M coupe looks good but that will be 50K . evo's , STI what else is there ?

SeaNile31 · 01-13-2011, 01:55 PM

I think the fun factor of the Boxster is damn hard to beat. Sure you can find faster, more gadgets, etc., but overall these cars are awesome and a total blast to drive.

yelojkt · 01-14-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jacabean

think about it ? if you had to replace your Boxster with a reasonably priced performance oriented car what would you choose? The new 1 series M coupe looks good but that will be 50K . evo's , STI what else is there ?

An 04 VW R32 is one I can think of. Build quality on par with porsche or BMW and a total blast to drive. Really clean low mile R32's go for 17-20,000.

Soetekouw · 01-13-2011, 03:57 PM

I have also been thinking about getting rid of my 2007 S. As Jacabean said, I am also getting sick of all the Boxster issues and the cost of ownership. Jake has implied so many times (although not in the same exact words), that the engine is crap and it will fail either through IMS, RMS, water pump, or by just looking at it wrong. Looking at it wrong may not be the right words, because probably what disappoints me most about the Porsche is that you don't get to see the engine unless you tear half the car apart.

If it wasn't for the depreciation hit I would take ($70K to approx. $24K in trade, in less than 4 years), this car would be out of my garage. But I have really tended to this car over the past 4 years with meticulous detail and care; keeping it scratch free and maintenance serviced, that it has become part of the family. I especially like the interior quality and finish. So, what to do? I have never worried more about a car's dependability, until this one.

I do understand that no car/engine is bulletproof, but the cost of problems, or mistakes (if you do your own work) is much higher in a Porsche as compared to similar sport cars. There will be a change in vehicles for me, in the near future.

In the meantime, I do enjoy other forum members comments on what type of vehicle they own, or what they are planning to buy next. It'll give me a good basis for my replacement car. EVO? (never heard of it - I'll need to look it up).

thstone · 01-13-2011, 04:49 PM

Some of you guys are spending WAY too much time worrying.

The Boxster was just rated as one of the Top 10 Cars to Reach 200,000 Miles by Fortune Magazine based on 10 years of reliability data collected and analyzed by Consumer Reports. It beat out most Honda's and Toyota's.

Here is the opening statement:

"According to Consumer Reports' latest reliability survey, all cars and SUVs made by the Stuttgart, Germany-based automaker are rated average or better when it comes to longevity.

One car in particular--Porsche's $47,600 Boxster--stands above the rest. It has the best predicted reliability of any vehicle tested by Consumer Reports this year."

The prediction is based on the previous 10 years of owner survey data collected by Consumer Reports. This is about as good of an unbiased opinion that can be found.

Of course, this doesn't mean that engine (or transmission, or ...) failures don't occur, it just means that they aren't statistically significant (the number of failures is small compared to the total number of vehicles sold over the years).

Reggie&Sue · 01-13-2011, 06:56 PM

The Evo is a GREAT engine, tranny, and suspension - but wrapped in Boy Racer body, and a cheap plastic interior. However, if you want to go fast for relative few bucks then it's a good fit. I've owned a few econo-racers and motorcycles in the last few years, and none has provided the overall satisfaction and driving enjoyment as my Boxster 00 S.

I'm also surprised about the amount of angst over "perceived" reliability issues. Maybe folks are reading too many sour grapes reports on the Net, and then extrapolating these potential problems to their own Boxsters ? I've had several issues with my S, but all is forgotten and forgiven when I hear the Porsche wail at 4-6 K RPM.

jcoit · 01-13-2011, 09:55 PM

I suggest you hop off the fence, send me some pics and specs of your 03 s with a great move it immediately sale price attached and lets get on with making you an evo owner and myself a happy 03 s owner.

I grew up with an e type jag in my garage. For those that remember these nightmares it will come as no surprise that my fathers head was usually under the hood instead of behind the windshield. Seemed like a lot of work, but ohh how I remember that moment of sheer thrill when we cranked it up Sunday afternoons and pop said lets go burn up the Maryland countryside. Those were the finest times and thats what owning a real sports car gives IMO.

On the other hand 2 out of three of my children have had a souped up Honda with a suspension rim and tire package that cost a third of a buy in for an average used boxster. Two hondas later and I wont ride to the grocery store in them unless I am test driving them to insure they are suitable to make it back to campus. My youngest child likes hers just fine in a crowd of her peers, except when it breaks itself every other day as it is trying to be a sports car.

I feel I havent quite lived up to my fathers fine example by letting these kids of mine get it in their head that a sports car consists of rims tire and a chrome exhaust tip. I have to agree with the poster who said "apples and oranges".

Dale_K · 01-14-2011, 05:11 AM

I had an EVO VIII and it had the greatest driving experience of any car I've ever owned, including several Corvettes and the Boxster. I'm sorry I sold it. That car was magic it the way it communicated the road through the steering wheel and the seat.

I've never driven an EVO X and the reviews seem to indicate it's lost a little of the special feel that the previous generatioin cars had. If you keep the EVO stock it ought to be pretty reliable.

CenterIsl · 01-14-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Soetekouw

EVO? (never heard of it - I'll need to look it up).

That was my reaction. Even after I read about it, I don't think I'd recognize one if it passed me on the street.

Remember when R&T put the cropped snaps "10 best cars" on their cover? And you could tell most of them because there was some distinctive styling cue on almost every desirable car?

If the EVO is considered an attractive car, then I despair for the future of the automobile.