Would you buy a 987 that was tracked 4x? - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

tnoice · 01-02-2011, 02:54 PM

Have a PPI done, but I would not be apprehensive of 4 track times. These cars need their exercise and legs stretched every so often. Happy shopping.

SeaNile31 · 01-02-2011, 03:46 PM

I know nothing about tracking a car but is the car pushed to it's extreme the entire time? Is it something that in 4x would amount to 3000 miles or more like a few hundred miles? Would a PPI be able to tell if there were any tracking issues?

06 S, 10K miles, tracked 4x asking $34900. What to offer?

The 05 S at Subaru dealer has 20K miles and price of $26900.

mikefocke · 01-02-2011, 04:18 PM

1. The 2006 has the IMS that can't be easily/cheaply upgraded. Drop the engine, split the case, ship the entire IMS, etc.
2. There is tracking and there is tracking. A DE under some controls on speed is one thing. A real competitive race is quite another. Was the proper service done before each event? After?
3. A PPI that looks at over-revs could tell you something about how the car was treated.

I'd rather have a driven hard, fanatically maintained car than one babied and where the service was ignored. And 4 track days may be trivial.

ekam · 01-02-2011, 04:24 PM

Cars that've been to the track are usually better maintained than cars that sat.

Steve Tinker · 01-02-2011, 05:42 PM

Mike's item #3 would be the killer for me - the 987's can be scanned for 5 levels of overrev (ignitions), while the 986 can only be scanned for 2 levels.
Any indi who does the PPI can print off the overrev picture - if the car's DME has registered level 2 and above, I think Porsche will invalidate any warranty anyway.....

MikenOH · 01-02-2011, 06:14 PM

To answer your question directly, if the car has been driven at 4 DE's in a couple of years and had the proper maintenance during that period, I would not be put off from buying the car.

We've done roughly 8 track days a year in our 06 since new. Probably 1/4 of the 30K miles on the car are at the track; I did a oil analysis last fall on the car which showed contaminants and metals way below the average for a 2.7L motor. I change the oil at 5K intervals and brake fluid at least once a year.

SeaNile31 · 01-02-2011, 07:34 PM

I think the 05 S 20K mile car can be had for at least $3000 less than the 06 S 10K mile tracked car. Should know for sure tomorrow.

Flavor 987S · 01-03-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Tinker

Mike's item #3 would be the killer for me - the 987's can be scanned for 5 levels of overrev (ignitions), while the 986 can only be scanned for 2 levels.
Any indi who does the PPI can print off the overrev picture - if the car's DME has registered level 2 and above, I think Porsche will invalidate any warranty anyway.....

This is all incorrect information stated in Steve's response. The 987 has 6 ranges of over-revs, not 5. And any ignitions in over-rev range #1 and #2 are fine. Rage #3 is not good, and #4-6 can void warranty.

Four track days is no biggie. For example, PCA runs excellent events. Sounds like an honest seller to disclose the track days, that's good news. Do a PPI, to include a DME readout and an oil filter dissection.

SeaNile31 · 01-03-2011, 07:18 AM

Ok, so I know not to be scared of the lightly tracked car if the PPI is fine.

Any thoughts on 05 vs 06? I am not sure of the build date of the 05 to see if it has the upgraded IMS.

05 has 20K miles, 06 has 10K miles.

SeaNile31 · 01-02-2011, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefocke

1. The 2006 has the IMS that can't be easily/cheaply upgraded. Drop the engine, split the case, ship the entire IMS, etc.
2. There is tracking and there is tracking. A DE under some controls on speed is one thing. A real competitive race is quite another. Was the proper service done before each event? After?
3. A PPI that looks at over-revs could tell you something about how the car was treated.

I'd rather have a driven hard, fanatically maintained car than one babied and where the service was ignored. And 4 track days may be trivial.

And based on these comments I don't see much of a reason to pay a premium for an 06 S with 10K miles and an aftermarket exhaust over an 05 S with 20K miles and stock exhaust (and more dealer service because of the miles).

When I compare the two cars I am interested in they have the same options (Bose, xenon lights, pcm w/o pasm, sport chrono package, heated seats, etc,. Looks like the 05 S wins out....