IMS Upgrade - Should I have it done - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Jim Miller · 10-21-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake Raby

The choice is yours.. Is the thrill of owning the car worth the investment? Know that if you don't do the upgrade that a failure can occur and if it does happen the repair will cost more than the price of the car.

At least you know this now.. Many others don't find out until after the purchase is made or when a failure occurs. Two people I am working with now have experienced failures with cars they haven't even made the first payment on yet... Talking about being disgusted! The worst is the guy with the 996 that had it fail while being transported to him from the buyer.

With the proper necessary upgrades the cars are very good and reliable... Low mileage cars worry me because we see so many low mileage failures.. People think they can drive the car 2000 miles a year and never have to change the oil.. All that time the oil is saturating the outer IMS bearing seal.. It's not the mileage between oil services that matters most, it's the time the oil is in service.

Though you may be gun-shy it is better to be informed than being flanked by a full on failure out of the blue. People have called us in tears before, literally.

All this discussion is disturbing but good. I will be test driving this car Sunday to potentially buy knowing that I need to add $2000 to the price. I decided, if I experience some of the fun I had driving my old 911T I will probably go for it.

I sold my 911T because of the noise level in the cabin. I recorded 105 db at 70 mph. Hearing protection would be required where I work. Im hopping the boxster is significantly improved.

yelojkt · 10-21-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Miller

I sold my 911T because of the noise level in the cabin. I recorded 105 db at 70 mph. Hearing protection would be required where I work. Im hopping the boxster is significantly improved.

I find this very interesting. I wonder what the noise level is in yelojkt at 70. What made you decide to take a reading in your 911T?

eightsandaces · 10-21-2010, 07:46 AM

My brother had a 991 T, very nice car, the Boxster is far more gratifying in every way. AC? no contest, chassis? no contest, engine placement and weight distribution....same

blue2000s · 10-21-2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eightsandaces

My brother had a 991 T, very nice car, the Boxster is far more gratifying in every way. AC? no contest, chassis? no contest, engine placement and weight distribution....same

Some would disagree that the Boxster is more gratifying. Even with all the on-paper advantages.

Jake Raby · 10-21-2010, 08:32 AM

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I sold my 911T because of the noise level in the cabin. I recorded 105 db at 70 mph. Hearing protection would be required where I work. Im hopping the boxster is significantly improved.

That is a Porsche...

Some of us still believe that Porsches don't have radiators, power brakes, heated seats, or a heater or air conditioning system that functions worth a damn.

My daily driver is a 1976 Porsche 912E, it has no radiator, No IMS bearing, no A/C and no creature comforts at all.. It is raw Porsche.

All my modern Porsches are secondary vehicles and I'd rather drive the 912E over any of them, because I appreciate raw Porsche that much.. I accumulated 160K miles on that car in 8 years and never did anything to it, just replaced the alternator in that period of time.

When doing our develomental M96 work I drive the modern cars more than I want to.. They are great cars, but to me its just not the same and it never will be.

Like I said, knowing about these issues is imperative. Beter to be informed than ignorant.

eightsandaces · 10-21-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s

Some would disagree that the Boxster is more gratifying. Even with all the on-paper advantages.

Some would sure, I like driving the 1971 Fiat too, not taking a thing away from the experience but I know I could hand a T driver his ass all day every day in my Boxster.

blue2000s · 10-21-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eightsandaces

Some would sure, I like driving the 1971 Fiat too, not taking a thing away from the experience but I know I could hand a T driver his ass all day every day in my Boxster.

That's not covering the gratifying part, unless the gratification comes from handing "a T driver his ass all day every day". For me, it doesn't. If the Boxster was my only sports car, I probably would have sold it a while ago.

My message to the original poster is to drive the Boxster, and drive some older 911s, especially the 3.0 and 3.2 cars and decide what you enjoy driving more.

Jim Miller · 10-21-2010, 07:50 AM

I work at a chemical company where we are constanly evaluating process noise and the need for hearing protection. Noise levels above 86 db long term can be damaging.

I took someone for a ride in my car and he commented on the high noise level, rained on my parade. I then took the comany noise metter and started testing and found it was quite high. It was close to 86 at idle. I was able to reduce the level by applying Dynamat material under the rear seat and engin wall, reduced the level to 96 from over 100. One major contributer was installation of stainless steal heat exchangers, should of replace with normal steal.

For a long time I wore foam ear plugs, but eventually got rid of the car primarily because of that. Loved that car, hoping the Boxster will give me similar enjoyment.