05-04-2005, 06:58 AM
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Location: Houston, Texas
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PAH, it is indeed a downer that you've had all these problems with your Boxster in such a short time. I have dumped $7,000 into my 1997 in less than a year, but my car had been trashed by three owners, had high mileage, and already had an engine replacement.
What I neglected to do was to have a very, very experienced mechanic look the car over before I bought it. Did you take your boxster off-site to a shop specializing in Porsche repair to have the car inspected?
They may have caught these things for you and you could have passed on this particular car or forced the sellers to repair all these things before you took possession.
I tell you what—these rampant RMS failures are just wrong. Porsche should have been forced to recall and fix all of the out-of-round crank shafts that produce the RMS failures, even if it meant losing money for the company and stockholders as well. Not owning up to such a stupid mistake is one sure way to lose customer loyalty, which is all Porsche has going for it these days.
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05-04-2005, 07:53 AM
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Aren't they fixing the RMS for free in this case?? What else can they do? Recall every car and replace all the RMS, even if they are good? It is my understanding that only a small, but significant percentage of cars experience this, and most are taken care of either under warranty or goodwill???
Correct me if I am wrong.
Mike
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05-04-2005, 08:09 AM
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PAH,
if the clutch problem had been detected early on how do you think that would have affected the situation? Was your Boxster still under warranty?
It seems to me that the Porsche Centre just prolonged an inevitable repair.
This may just be a round of bad luck but if it continues I would consider trading up for a slightly newer Boxster.
Some cars are just cursed I think.
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05-04-2005, 08:56 AM
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I think if the RMS re-occurs you have documentation of when it happened, and Porsche will have to take care of it, as they did not fix it right in the first place. I think their policy is to replace the seal once, and if it happens again you get a new engine.
Mike
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05-04-2005, 09:57 AM
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Although it's a bummer, a clutch is a wear part similar to brake pads. To me an analogy would be that after buying the car you're having braking problems, and they replace some sticking calipers under warranty. While they're doing that they discover that the brake pads are low, and they'll replace the brake pads for 50% of the part cost (since they were low when you bought it), and no labor charge since they're putting new calipers on. In that instance, it would seem very reasonable to me to pay for half the part.
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05-05-2005, 11:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 99-Boxster-MK
I think if the RMS re-occurs you have documentation of when it happened, and Porsche will have to take care of it, as they did not fix it right in the first place. I think their policy is to replace the seal once, and if it happens again you get a new engine.
Mike
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Only in the US
UK warranty is only 2 years too.
Berny is on his 7th RMS and its leaking again (996) !!
We have a Porsche master tech now working at a local independnet (well respected and huge success racing 996s). He is going to try a GT3 RMS seal, but fit it in reverse, as the GT3 one has a slight lip built into the rubber sealing ring.
Only problem id there is no part number for the GT3 seal, and its motorsport issue only
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05-05-2005, 11:36 PM
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Is Berny local to NW England? Do you know if his 7 RMS replacements have been done at Mann Island in Liverpool?
Cheers
Paul
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05-06-2005, 06:56 AM
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7 seals....
Geeeze... I think its time for a new engine
Soon you will have to replace all the bolts as they wil be worn from being removed all the time  eheh
Mike
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05-04-2005, 08:03 AM
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The car was purchased from an official Porsche dealership, so I thought I would be safe. However, my Dad owns an accident investigation company, so we got one of his engineers to take a look at the car to be double safe. He checked as much as he could, even using a machine to check the thickness of the paint (checking for accident damage). The car really was in top condition. These problems (ok, they are not too bad, more annoying than anything) have all occured since I bought it, with the exception of the clutch judder. I guess it's just unfortunate. At least everything (up to the clutch) has been covered by the warranty Porsche offer with used cars.
I still love my car though, and wouldn't consider getting rid - I just hope it doesn't cost me a fortune in the long-run.
As for RMS - it's really, really worrying me. From what I have heard, it's not the seal that is the problem, it something more serious (crankshaft) that causes it to fail. I'm just going to worry all the time now that the seal will fail again. I have no option but to extend the warranty when it expires, otherwise I'll be paying out big money, as it seem my car could be prone like so many others.
Even after an RMS failure, are Porsche not prepared to replace out-of-tolerance crankshafts? Do they just keep replacing the seals?
Cheers
Paul
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