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jacabean 11-07-2009 04:39 AM

Roock boxster rsb 340
 
Went to look at a Boxster S yesterday , come to find out it is a RSB 340 with a 3.6 and short mileage . does anyone know about these cars? and what they are worth ? I am going to drive it today and possibly trade-in my 01 boxster. just not shure of the conversion the rest of the car looks like it was done well . Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jason

jwade 11-07-2009 05:23 AM

What year is the car? If it is a real 340, you have come across a very rare car. Take the VIN number and like anytime you are looking at buying a boxster, it needs to have a PPI done, but in addition to this, I would also call Roock in Atlanta to verify credentials.

Roock AutoSport, Inc.
2310 Marietta Blvd NW
Atlanta GA 30318
Off 404.352.8000
Toll Free 888.301.9440


As far as value, I would think this would be a pricey pre owned car to purchase, but it really depends on the mileage and overall condition. Whoever owns it must know what they have so doubt it will go cheap.

These Roock modifications were well over 25k back in the day and a 340 would have been their flagship model. If it's in good condition and you can get it for a decent price, I would be all over that.

Claimed 0-60 on these were 4.8s with top speed in the 180 territory.

If you can, post up some picts.

jacabean 11-07-2009 05:44 AM

It is deffinetly the real deal it only has 6300 miles and it is from a porsche dealer and they want to dump it. i can't figure out how to post pics. up here for some reason . i am going to drive it in about 30 min. wish me luck

jwade 11-07-2009 05:51 AM

On a reply post, go to "manage attachments". Click it and it will open up another box and you specify a target directory where the picture is located on your hard drive. The picture needs to be downsized though so it will upload correctly.

And yes, Good luck. I would love to see this car and know what they are selling it for.

edevlin 11-07-2009 12:45 PM

Buy it :D

Ed

:cheers:

mikefocke 11-07-2009 02:49 PM

Just don't pay too much
 
because if the Porsche dealer is having trouble selling it now, imagine what you trying to sell it later will be like. Not to mention where will you get it fixed. What parts are no longer available. Etc. Have a long talk with Roock. Also your insurance agent.

jacabean 11-07-2009 02:49 PM

Roock RSB 340 3.6 boxster with 6,400 miles
 
I bought this ride today , nasty ride very loud exhaust . Does anybody know the real value of this car

jwade 11-07-2009 02:52 PM

Nice looking ride there and only 6300 miles. What a find!!!

How much did you pay for that?

jacabean 11-07-2009 03:01 PM

Does anybody know someone with one of these? i can't even compare this car to my 2.7 on a whole different level . I not shure if it is as quick as my evo was . All I know is everywhere i drove it today people were looking a it , the exhaust sound is crazy! Is Roock some sort of sub Ruf like tuner ?

Banana S 11-07-2009 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jacabean
Does anybody know someone with one of these? i can't even compare this car to my 2.7 on a whole different level . I not shure if it is as quick as my evo was . All I know is everywhere i drove it today people were looking a it , the exhaust sound is crazy! Is Roock some sort of sub Ruf like tuner ?

Those really aren't worth more than $3,000-$4,000, but I feel bad for you so I will give you my 2002 Boxster S as an even swap for it, just because I'm such a nice guy. I'll be by tomorrow to pick it up. :D

JTP 11-07-2009 03:11 PM

Unless you're going to turn around and sell it, I wouldn't worry about how much it's worth, it's possible you might be disappointed.

You just got yourself a badass ride, enjoy it!

I wonder if Roock addressed the IMS issue like Jake does?

jacabean 11-07-2009 03:32 PM

I just hope this ******************** does'nt blow up on me , ****************ing porsches! It sat for a long time.

Kirk 11-09-2009 06:56 PM

Well it's hard to estimate a price without more details, such as the year. But here goes my best guess...

The early standard 986 is going cheap now, as low at $8,000 for high mileage examples. $13,000 for more reasonable cars. I think the 2000+ Boxster S is more in the $18,000 to $20,000 range. Let's say though that an extremely low mileage Boxster S would go for $22,000. Again, this really depends on the year though, as you can add a couple thousand for each year newer than 2000 your car is. Throw in a 340 HP 3.6L (I assume this car started as a Boxster S) and I think you could add anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 to that price. It depends on how "complete" the package was that Roock put together. Do you have suspension work as well as the wheels, exhaust, and engine? Brake work? Interior upgrades? I think this car could easily be worth $30,000 especially considering the low mileage.

Kirk

jacabean 11-10-2009 04:33 AM

This car is a well optioned 02 S . I believe it has the full Roock Package except interior parts. It has H&R coil over setup Not shure of the brakes , does not look like 6 piston all around but the rotors look larger than standard S brakes.

This car was owned by a wealthy man who also owns multiple exotic cars. He bought the car brand new in 02 and the conversion was also done in 02. I like this car alot I still think this car could easily use more power than the 3.6 has.

jacabean 11-10-2009 04:52 AM

can anyone tell what brakes these are?

dalealan2001 11-10-2009 05:52 AM

Wasn't this car at Herb Chambers Porsche? I remembering seeing it online last week. Around 24k?

cnavarro 11-10-2009 08:36 AM

We had spoken to Roock quite some time ago about our upgrades to 'beef-up' the M96 and nothing ever came out of it, so I'm sure the drive-train is bone stock. Like most tuners, it's body kits and bolt ons.

PlayersExpress 11-10-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cnavarro
We had spoken to Roock quite some time ago about our upgrades to 'beef-up' the M96 and nothing ever came out of it, so I'm sure the drive-train is bone stock. Like most tuners, it's body kits and bolt ons.

No offense meant Charles but if you even bothered to read the first post.... it has a 3.6 in it. That is not stock for a boxster. Now if youve had problems with Roock or you do not like them for whatever reason this this thread wasnt started by Jacabean for shortsighted opinions.

dalealan2001 11-10-2009 09:55 AM

I'm beginning to wonder if this whole IMS failure thing is made up?

jmatta 11-10-2009 10:47 AM

If you read what Charles meant, it has a factory 3.6 in it; that means it's subject to all the common failures associated with the M96 design. It wasn't a knock against Roock...just that there are no performance or preventative measures built into the engine.

Looks like a nice car...hope you got a good deal and can put the extra money into IMS upgrades.

Johnny Danger 11-10-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jacabean
can anyone tell what brakes these are?

Jacabean,

I know who's the previous owner of your new boxster and all of the history that goes along with it. Let me know if you want the details.

Johnny

jacabean 11-10-2009 01:10 PM

hey man, it would be great if you could give me some info on the , there was no paper work with it.

jacabean 11-10-2009 01:23 PM

i don't want to sound like a retard but i have owned a couple of boxsters and know people who have them and none of us had that IMS **************** happen. RMS yes . you mean to tell me every engine from this era is going to fail .

Johnny Danger 11-10-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacabean
hey man, it would be great if you could give me some info on the , there was no paper work with it.

You can PM me if you would like.

Johnny Danger 11-10-2009 03:29 PM

Jason,

The vehicle was purchased new by a Pakistani gentleman who had ties to the Boston area. I recall, that within the first few hundred miles of ownership, the boxster was indeed sent to Roock USA for a major "tuner" program that involved an engine conversion, suspension, body kit upgrades ect... The boxster remained with Roock for well over a year while they tried in earnest to get the ecu programing correct. Ultimately, the project was completed, however, not without some bad feelings arising between the customer and Roock. As far as I know, the Boxster was well cared for and driven sparsely before the owner moved to Europe for employment reasons. While he was away (approximately 5 years ), the vehicle was left in the care of a family member and stored in southern Connecticut. It was just this summer that he returned to the Boston area and decided to take the boxster out of "moth balls". I am surprised to see that he decided to dispose of it. Its a very unique vehicle , one of the first of its kind in fact, and the owner went to great lengths to modify it. In any case, it sounds like you came across a real "find". Best of luck !

Johnny

p.s. May I ask what you purchased it for ? Originally, he wanted me to buy it for around 50K.

jacabean 11-10-2009 05:30 PM

Thanks a lot Johnny, That is very close to what I was told. All I can tell you is this car really is something . I put 400 miles on it since saturday , I can not stop driving it. I have owned 944s , E30 M3 , boosted Evo and boxsters . None of those were nearly as sorted as this car is. I know that it is going to be a bit quirky at times but that is something that comes along with a car of this type. this car will be driven the way it was meant to be.

jmatta 11-11-2009 07:03 AM

"You mean to tell me every engine from this era is going to fail?"

No, but I hope mine doesn't before I get the LN updated IMS bearing installed.

Enjoy the car and keep us updated.

dalealan2001 11-11-2009 08:33 AM

You folks need to be careful concerning the "IMS failure" hyperbole on this board. There are users on this board that make a living woking on porsche's and selling aftermarket parts. And I have seen postings where some people claimed IMS failure in a post but have never posted again. It is easy in this day and age to "create" a market of fear then serve the needs of that market.

I am making no claims (for or against). I am just saying be careful.

jmatta 11-11-2009 08:49 AM

I am not into fear, but reality. A friend's 2000 2.7 imploded after just 10 hours of DE and AX events...IMS bearing failure. Car around 50k miles on the clock and was well taken care of, though it was filled with Mobil 1 0W40. He has purchased a used engine and is having all the current LN updates done before installation.

I have been a PCA instructor in the Chicago region for the last 10 years or so. We have a fair number of Boxsters and Caymans attending our events and not every one of them implodes.

It won't happen to everyone's car, but it does happen (on rare occasion)...just hope it isn't yours.

JFP in PA 11-11-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacabean
i don't want to sound like a retard but i have owned a couple of boxsters and know people who have them and none of us had that IMS **************** happen. RMS yes . you mean to tell me every engine from this era is going to fail .

Not really; but it is a real and ever present danger for the M96 engine. Some engines go well over 100K miles with the OEM bearing, and never have a problem. Others do not live anywhere near that long. How the car is used does not always appear to come into play; one customer with a 2.7 engine wails the snot out of it every chance he gets; no problems. Another owned by someone that takes immaculate care of the car and drives it in a more normal fashion loses two engines before trading the car for another brand. Another owner that takes equal car but drives the car hard on and off the track has had one fail as well.

Point is that the IMS issue is not fiction, it is not “marketing hype” created to sell remedial products; it is a real problem that gives little (if any) warning prior to failure. And when the IMS bearing does fail, the usual result is a totaled engine. There are no model years that appear exempt from the threat; it just seems to come out of nowhere.

The LN Engineering/Flatsix updates offer an alternative that seems to work, but at a price. Unfortunately, I am not aware of anyone with the upgrade that has gone 100K miles as of yet; but I am also not aware of anyone that has had the upgrade and subsequently had an IMS fail either………………..

jacabean 11-11-2009 09:11 AM

All i can say is that i am not going to loose sleep or dwell on a possible engine failure . Drive your car like it is the last day of your life and don't worry. hezboloh harry might blow me up before the ****************ing car blows up.

gschotland 11-11-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jacabean
hezboloh harry might blow me up before the ****************ing car blows up.

Everyone is excited as you are about your new car, but do you think you could spare us the constant f-bombs? There are places to use them and places not to; I think most here would agree they'd prefer to see minimal use here. Used sparingly they have much more impact.

emerson34 11-11-2009 11:12 AM

IMS vote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gschotland
Everyone is excited as you are about your new car, but do you think you could spare us the constant f-bombs? There are places to use them and places not to; I think most here would agree they'd prefer to see minimal use here. Used sparingly they have much more impact.

Ok Guys, I would like to take a vote, I have a 2000 boxster 35,000 miles, please vote if I should install this new IMS... I thank you ahead of time for your advice, I've learned alot here...

yimmy149 11-11-2009 11:39 AM

Emerson: If I were you I'd wait until you need a new clutch. Then look into the cost & availability. That is my plan. If I can get some piece of mind for $500 or less, I will probably do it.

I don't want to rush into it, as it seems as though Mr. Raby is finding other weak links in the engine (ie chain tensioner pads), and it might be cost effective to several at once while the transmission is out.

-james

jmatta 11-11-2009 12:54 PM

I agree with the timing when replacing the clutch. If you have the whole thing pulled apart anyway, why not spend the extra dollars for the update? I wouldn't do it before then, unless you're paranoid.

Do change your oil at least every 5k miles...that will do a lot to help keep the engine healthy and minimize wear on all the weak components...and consider 5W or 10W40; not 0W40.

jacabean 11-11-2009 02:27 PM

No offense Emerson but are we all men up here , because i am! why do all the topics up here turn to IMS crap. This post is about A Roock RSB 340 not about IMS. When you get a leak or need a new clutch then put the bearing in, end of story. that's what i will do thanks to you guys.


remember gentleman it's all about the balance power = handling = braking and a big set of balls!!!!!!!!!

jacabean 11-11-2009 02:52 PM

now this is what it's all about

jmatta 11-12-2009 06:53 AM

I take it you're not married...that would get me in trouble.

BYprodriver 11-12-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress
No offense meant Charles but if you even bothered to read the first post.... it has a 3.6 in it. That is not stock for a boxster. Now if youve had problems with Roock or you do not like them for whatever reason this this thread wasnt started by Jacabean for shortsighted opinions.


Speaking of shortsighted opinions "bone stock" meaning unmodified which it sounds like this engine is regardless of it's current location.


:rolleyes:

jacabean 11-12-2009 12:27 PM

I do believe the 3.6 is a stock engine


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