Just Ranting - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

phrankandbeanz · 03-09-2005, 01:15 PM

i put would money on a boxster stock for stock and equal driving ablities

Pilot2519j · 03-09-2005, 03:19 PM

Whatever the perception whatever the marketing ploy whatever the whatevers the fact is that the Boxster holds its own vs. anything placed on the road against it. We should be not only happy to own such a fine car but we are immensely blessed to drive such a fine machine. I don't feel chided by not owning a 911 or depressed about it. I feel that our car is super quick has the same brand as the 997 and the Cayenne etc. As far as racing heritage lots of the Porsche victory have been by prototypes 917's, 962's etc not necessarily the 911. So it's not the racing prowess of the 911 or the handling of the 911 for sure, it is just the marketing of the 911 that pushes the Boxster aside to a lesser role.
Proof for all Boxster malcontents is the fact that automobile magazine after magazine picks the Boxster over the 911 time and time again. More fun to drive, get more for your money, and much better looking. What more can we say about our car that is a KICK ASS CAR. Screw the rest.

ntmatter · 03-13-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phrankandbeanz

i put would money on a boxster stock for stock and equal driving ablities

On an autocross track, totally. On a road track, though, I'd be very surprised if I'd be faster in a Boxster than a 993 or later. The bigger car just has the grunt on any sort of straightaway, and while after driving both I think the Boxster turns better, the margin isn't enough to make up for the grunt in the 911.

(Sorry, not a flame, but that extra $50K has to buy something , right?

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Brucelee · 03-14-2005, 05:35 AM

"(Sorry, not a flame, but that extra $50K has to buy something , right?"

Higher repair bills and insurance rates?????????????

Lux · 03-14-2005, 08:37 AM

The extra $50K is going to buy a lot of whine when the Cayman S starts ripping it up!

I've been reading up on 911 owners reactions to the Cayman S. I thought it would've been positive. Instead, I see a lot of hate. Those guys crack me up. They are as bad as the Corvette guys. Just full of themselves and sometimes outright clueless. Some even justify the wrong engine location by saying it's heritage and that's why it's the only real Porsche.

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ntmatter · 03-14-2005, 08:45 AM

My favorite quote is still that the 911 is a triumph of design over physics. They are very nice cars, though expensive for the performance. Claiming that the 911 is the best car in the universe is tough to back up, the Ariel Atom, for instance, has better power/weight than an Enzo and costs $30K.

Perfectlap · 03-14-2005, 11:26 AM

I still don't understand why the Boxster and the 996 are even compared.

They are two totally different cars.

Its kind of like a M3 owner complaining about/slamming the Z4.

The Cayman is a diffrent story I suppose because both the Cayman
and the 996 are actually engineered to be tin top racers.

But I will believe the overall track superiority of one ore the other when the
first Cayman wins at LeMans.

just kidding, if the Cayman beat the 996 well that would be a nightmare for Porsche.

graybeard · 03-14-2005, 01:51 PM

I see the argument about which is better the 996/997 or the 986/987 all the time. As far as I am concerned it is like comparing a 12oz. steak and a 24oz. steak. Yes the 12oz may leave you wanting a little more but can you handle 24oz. I see a lot of 911's around here and seldom see them doing anything you couldn't do in a 350z( no slight intended). I think that it is more a case of mine is bigger than yours, at least around here. Certainly there are those who get 90% out of their cars, I'll never come close to that. I have heard of how edgy the 911 can be and have no need for this, the 986/987 is just so civilized, how far do you need to push it to get into trouble with the 986/987? The 911 Cab will do 0-60 in 5 sec. the 987S does it in 5.2 I can live with this for 26,000 dollars after all mine is a weekend drive only. The 986/987 has more trunk space and looks much nicer. I promise that I will not lust over the 996/997, in any of its forms. The Boxster is that good a fit.

phrankandbeanz · 03-14-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lux

The extra $50K is going to buy a lot of whine when the Cayman S starts ripping it up!

I've been reading up on 911 owners reactions to the Cayman S. I thought it would've been positive. Instead, I see a lot of hate. Those guys crack me up. They are as bad as the Corvette guys. Just full of themselves and sometimes outright clueless. Some even justify the wrong engine location by saying it's heritage and that's why it's the only real Porsche.

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i hear ya man!

Adam · 03-14-2005, 03:40 PM

LOL, what have the 911 owners been saying exactly?

Brucelee · 03-14-2005, 03:52 PM

If I understand the history of Porsche accurately, the rear engine in the 911 is due to it having been in the Bug and that is what Porsche could buy after he got out of prison.

If so, it hardly seems like a technology that needs to be preserved.

Moreover, are there ANY race cars that are designed this way? IE Grand Prix, nascar, etc.

If it were inherently superior, we would see others use it, ie like mid engine technology.

Lastly, did not the 550 feature a mid engine configuration?

Hmmmm!