Krauts and Japs at it again! - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Lil bastard · 10-01-2008, 06:55 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/porsche-accuses-nissan-gt-r-of-cheating-the-ring/?icid=200100397x1210457835x1200608170

Brucelee · 10-01-2008, 07:37 AM

JUst to head this off at the pass, as someone who is of German heritiage, I don't have an issue with the term Krauts. Nor, do I find Pollack offensive. Nor Mick, nor Frog.

There, I have hanled my lineage.

Lil bastard · 10-01-2008, 09:57 AM

Sorry... no offense intended... I'm of Irish decent and have heard all the 'Pat & Mike' jokes there are and find them very funny...not offensive at all. I was just trying to give it a 'catchy' title. If anyone is offended, I apologize as this was NOT my intent!

I realize that German-Americans had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust and that Japanese-Americans were NOT the ones who attacked Pearl Harbor. Both groups are honored members of the US citizenry!

fragdude · 10-01-2008, 11:15 AM

Gossipy, I love it!

jk

this will be interesting though. Lots of people do buy the GT-R saying that is faster than a Turbo around the 'ring. I wonder how this will effect buyers. Maybe some people who placed orders on the GT-R will ask for the $$ back?

Kirk · 10-01-2008, 02:23 PM

Nissan may have been using one of their "ringer" cars at the Ring.

If you read the latest Car and Driver they did an article about the inconsistency in Nissan GTR test cars. Evidently some of them have significantly more horsepower than Nissan claims, to get the acceleration times they're getting. That's still up for debate, but on average it just looks like a plus for anyone who buys one. Porsche may be comparing the power/weight ratio claimed by Nissan, which C&D has shown to be under valued.

Kirk

bigb · 10-01-2008, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk

Porsche may be comparing the power/weight ratio claimed by Nissan, which C&D has shown to be under valued.
Kirk

That would be true if Porsche were simply comparing numbers, without doing an actual test. In this case, however, Porsche bought a GTR and drove it around the ring. They bought it in the US, and the way these things go, I am sure the Nissan folks did not know it was Porsche that was buying the car.

CD (or some other car mag) did point out the inconsistency of "heavier--same-HP--yet-faster" in the GTR. IIRC they insinuated that it could be the electronics (or perhaps that was my personal 'take away' from reading the article).

Btw, I'm sure Porsche has access to a dyno, so they must have done a check already on the claimed vs actual on the GTR.