09-17-2008, 05:42 AM
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Street Racing: The carnage continues
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Tuesday, September 16, 2008
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A newborn baby girl died after she was thrown from her car seat during an apparent street race that ended in a crash in Phoenix, police said.
The 6-week-old infant died Monday night, according to MyFOXPhoenix.com.
The 24-year-old unidentified driver of the Ford Mustang that was carrying the child was listed in critical condition.
Police believe the man behind the wheel was racing another vehicle with the baby girl strapped in her car seat in the back when he lost control and crashed into a utility pole in the western part of the city.
The alleged joy ride ended in tragedy: The child was ejected from the Mustang and died from her injuries.
There was no immediate word as to whether charges would be
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09-17-2008, 06:57 AM
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After the driver recovers, they should take him/her out back and shoot 'em.
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09-17-2008, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jmatta
After the driver recovers, they should take him/her out back and shoot 'em.
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That occured to me also.
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09-17-2008, 07:37 AM
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Anything I read like this I only take half seriously. The media has something out for street racing and will sensationalize it whenever they get a chance. The last time I read something in the paper about street racing it said that three people were injured in a street racing accident. In fact it was some drunk that plowed into a crowd of people watching street racing, it wasn't in fact a directly street racing related accident. But it was more interesting to report it as such rather than as a drunk driving accident.
No doubt it's a tragedy as to what happened. The fact is that the baby is dead. Whether or not street racing was actually involved though I would not take as fact.
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09-17-2008, 03:17 PM
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I witnessed a three year old girl going into a life-flight helicopter, after being removed from the carnage of an accident. An officer had to be pulled off from kicking her dead father, laying on the ground.
Cause of accident? High speed police chase on a dead end country road.
Isn't a high speed chase street racing that's legal for one of the participants?
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09-17-2008, 11:10 PM
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Unfortunately there are, and always will be, a whole buttload of stupid people in this world. Years ago my mom witnessed a woman she knew get killed when she got in the way of two cars racing. My mom watched her take her last breath.
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09-18-2008, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
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I witnessed a three year old girl going into a life-flight helicopter, after being removed from the carnage of an accident. An officer had to be pulled off from kicking her dead father, laying on the ground.
Cause of accident? High speed police chase on a dead end country road.
Isn't a high speed chase street racing that's legal for one of the participants?
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The officer was kicking the dead father laying on the ground? why?
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09-18-2008, 10:26 AM
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After the driver recovers, they should take him/her out back and shoot 'em.
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If by "they" you mean his wife, I'm sure she will. This is horrible.
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09-18-2008, 05:12 PM
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After the driver recovers, they should take him/her out back and shoot 'em.
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That's not punishment, that's just revenge. Rather have him life with his guilt for the rest of his life while he stares through the steel bars of his prison cell.
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09-19-2008, 06:49 AM
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That's not punishment, that's just revenge. Rather have him life with his guilt for the rest of his life while he stares through the steel bars of his prison cell.
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Annual cost to incarcerate a prisoner is in the range $20,000 - $25,000 ( citation). Cost of a single 9mm round is $0.25 including tax ( citation). Who are we punishing more, the criminal or the tax payer?
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09-19-2008, 07:10 AM
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Timothy, I clearly see your point (the math is simple) but the human rights issues are far more complex. Do we take someone out and shoot them for being stupid? Where should we draw the line? When they seriously hurt a person or if they kill a person?
I ain't no bleeding heart liberal by any means, but taking them out and shooting them is a slippery slope in and of itself.
Now I've always believed that our prison system should be run a tad more like the Mexico prisons... nasty places you never want to go back to and have nightmares about every day you are there and every day after you leave. Your family must bring you food too or you don't eat much.
And I like the warden (wherever he's located) that put the men in pink jumpsuits and make the work in the fields growing vegetables for 12 hours a day to pay for their incarceration. They live in non air-conditioned tents with no electricity in the fields as well.
Why they don't make prison far worse than it is today I do not understand. I know it's no picnic, but hey, changes could be made to make it far less tolerable and pay for itself.
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09-19-2008, 07:35 AM
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Randall, don't get me wrong, the bulk of the comment was in jest and intended to raise a economic concern about our current system of locking up someone "for the rest of his life," as ChrisZang put it. I don't advocate capital punishment as routine, regardless of the incarceration costs. But with life in prison costing over 800k (assuming 40 years), I get frustrated by the ever increasing prison population as another group to be supported by Mr and Mrs tax payer. Clearly shooting someone is not the answer but neither is an overcrowded jail system. I like your idea of a jumpsuit and shovel as standard issue. Driving through west Texas I've seen guards on horseback watching over prison work crews. If the courts took that approach with early offenders there may not be so many who return for a second and third stay.
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09-19-2008, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timothy
Annual cost to incarcerate a prisoner is in the range $20,000 - $25,000 ( citation). Cost of a single 9mm round is $0.25 including tax ( citation). Who are we punishing more, the criminal or the tax payer?
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Screw a 9mm. Just get a .22 for about a penny or two and make sure it's well placed.
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