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Old 04-10-2008, 08:29 AM   #1
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What's up with all these set up fee bull?! Every dealer has a $300 set up fee.

On top of it you can't even test drive them for insurance purposes.
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try and find one locally from a private person..though craigslist maybe so you can avoid the dealer fees? Unless you want a brand new scooter..
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:59 PM   #3
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+ 1 on the Ninja 250 :

http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/detail.aspx?id=263&content=specifications

Great bike for $3500 !

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$1,500 for a classic like my little '74 Honda. Good on gas and cool too. Everytime I leave it outside, people bang on my door trying to buy it.

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$1,500 for a classic like my little '74 Honda. Good on gas and cool too. Everytime I leave it outside, people bang on my door trying to buy it.


I understand why. My first bike was a 69 Yamaha Twin Jet 100 2 stroke. The bike was a screamer and I would buy one today if I could find one in as nice a shape as yours.

Great bike.
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A scooter isn't going to be much less dangerous than a motorcycle...unless you count not being able to get on the freeway with it... ...and while nothing takes the place of your own self awareness of others, at least in Cali, the drivers are more aware of motorcyclists than many other places in the states, like here in Atlanta where if you're not looking then no one else is either...

The trick to finding cheaper insurance on a motorcycle is get to something without any fairings...like a Suzuki SV650 or and older Suzuki GS500... insurance goes down tremendously when the insurance company doesn't have to take into consideration replacing most/all the body work if you have an accident.
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I still have an original Honda C 70 out in the airplane hanger. It was a hand me down the we used to put-put around the airport for a while. The battery is probably flat now but it runs well. All original, gold, 3spd clutchless, elect start. It's in good shape but not nearly as pristine as Grizzly's CB. I'd probably let it go for $800 if you wanted it.

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Blink,

+ 1 on the Ninja 250 :

http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/detail.aspx?id=263&content=specifications

Great bike for $3500 !

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I won't get a bike. Way too dangerous for my taste. I'm also pretty sure my Mom would kick my a55 if she found out I got one. (she tripped when she found out I bought a fast convertible)

Besides insurance is a completely different scenario when I move above 50cc. I can insure a 50cc Scooter w/ $1million liability for $450/year under my name through AAA. It was already jumping to $800+/year for a 150cc scooter when I asked....I would hate to see what a motorcycle would be like. Kinda sucks to I have to keep my liability up to $1million,my Dad thinks I'm gonna get in an accident and someone is going to sue us for our house.

Driving by the gas station today and seeing how gas jumped to $4.13/gallon sure had me thinking of buying a scooter.
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What's up with all these set up fee bull?! Every dealer has a $300 set up fee.

On top of it you can't even test drive them for insurance purposes.
Every dealer has this stupid fee. I just bought a new dirt bike and every dealer I shopped has this fee. This is because most dirtbikes and scooters are so cheap that they do not make very much on them 25-100 profit. So they tack on this fee, some say it's a fee to put the bikes together from shipment. They also make most of their profits from accessories like helmets, gear etc.. If you want the best place for a new Honda, OTD Cycles in Oakland has the best deal no B.S. they only will quote you the Out the door price. I saved over 600 bucks buying from them. Also check out craigslist, they have some awesome deals there. Some shops will let you test drive them if you have a license (motorcycle).

The 250 Ninja that people is recommending is a great bike, very easy to ride and good on gas. If its your first bike and have not riden before, buy a used one that way you wont feel bad about dropping it etc...
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Every dealer has this stupid fee. I just bought a new dirt bike and every dealer I shopped has this fee. This is because most dirtbikes and scooters are so cheap that they do not make very much on them 25-100 profit. So they tack on this fee, some say it's a fee to put the bikes together from shipment. They also make most of their profits from accessories like helmets, gear etc.. If you want the best place for a new Honda, OTD Cycles in Oakland has the best deal no B.S. they only will quote you the Out the door price. I saved over 600 bucks buying from them. Also check out craigslist, they have some awesome deals there. Some shops will let you test drive them if you have a license (motorcycle).
Your the 2nd person to recommend me to Out The Door Motorsports.

I'm gonna call them tomorrow.*

*Update I just did their out-the-door quote.....$1.9k out the door,everything paid, including all applicable taxes, registration, and document fees. Not bad.
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Another thing I'm noticing with scooters...

Kbb list the 07' Metro suggested retail value at $1500,but yet Honda's sight list 07' & 08' at $1900. Is that normal for these types of vehicles?
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