these are the people that piss me off!!!

[Brucelee]

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?

I believe some of your cars were made by the Valmet Automotive Inc. in Uusikaupunki, Finland.

ie. made FOR Porsche not BY Porsche.

So by your own rationale, Boxsters & Cayman built by Valmet are NOT real Porsches.

This being your Forum I guess yours is the last word.

Thank-you for clearing that up for everyone.

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[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by babyakiro

I believe some of your cars were made by the Valmet Automotive Inc. in Uusikaupunki, Finland.

ie. made FOR Porsche not BY Porsche.

So by your own rationale, Boxsters & Cayman built by Valmet are NOT real Porsches.

This being your Forum I guess yours is the last word.

Thank-you for clearing that up for everyone.

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The name on the invoice and the name on the title is Porsche. The legal liability for the car remains with Porsche.

I think the lawyers will back me up on this!

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

The name on the invoice and the name on the title is Porsche. The legal liability for the car remains with Porsche.

I think the lawyers will back me up on this!

who mentioned legal liability? That has nothing to do with who MADE your beloved Porsche.

Fact: Valmet Automotive Inc. made your Porsche NOT Dr. Ing. h.c. F.Porsche AG - do you want to dispute that?

Your own words were:

"Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company"

Are you suddenly changing your judgement criteria on REAL Porsches to suddenly encompass all cars that ultimately have legal liability to Porsche?

If that's the case my cousin's Skoda Octavia is a real Porsche too!


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[unklekraker]

Grizz, Nick, Blink, DJ, cas951 and everyone else...who want's popcorn? Let me know, so I could go to Costco and buy a bulk size..I think this will be good for awhile

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by babyakiro

who mentioned legal liability? That has nothing to do with who MADE your beloved Porsche.

Fact: Valmet Automotive Inc. made your Porsche NOT Dr. Ing. h.c. F.Porsche AG - do you want to dispute that?

Your own words were:

"Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company"

Are you suddenly changing your judgement criteria on REAL Porsches to suddenly encompass all cars that ultimately have legal liability to Porsche?

If that's the case my cousin's Skoda Octavia is a real Porsche too!


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No need for the attitude. If Porsche outsources manufacturing to some other company, the car is still legally a Porsche. If you want to use some other definition, then you are free to. If Porsche Outsourced the manufacturing of its beloved 911, would you not call that car a Porsche?

Since Porsches ASSEMBLED in Germany contain many outsourced parts (the transmissions are made in Japan), I would suggest your distinction is rather useless in everyday use.. At the end of the day, the nameplate, the title, the legal manufacturer are all Porsche.

Again, lets watch your tone if you choose to respond. This topic is certainly not worth any bickering.

[djomlas]

you dont see him bashing another car, like for instance a toyota corolla, since he doesnt feel the need to show off to those cars.
but somehow, theres a lot of hate towards the box, i think they all just pissed that the car keeps getting ridiculously good ratings accross the board, so if all the car experts (the ones who actually know something about cars) say its good, and we all agree, it must be good since we all just love driving these cars.

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by djomlas

you dont see him bashing another car, like for instance a toyota corolla, since he doesnt feel the need to show off to those cars.
but somehow, theres a lot of hate towards the box, i think they all just pissed that the car keeps getting ridiculously good ratings accross the board, so if all the car experts (the ones who actually know something about cars) say its good, and we all agree, it must be good since we all just love driving these cars.

I hope you're not refering to me...

If so, which car did I bash exactly? The Boxster? Are you accusing me of 'showing off' my car? When did I 'show off' exactly?

I was just stating that it was built/manufactured/assembled by Valmet not Porsche.

Unlike you, I don't seem to get any 'hate' towards my Boxster. Just a little 'hate' from you guys for defending other cars.

Would I have spend good $$$ on it if I hated it?

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[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

No need for the attitude. If Porsche outsources manufacturing to some other company, the car is still legally a Porsche. If you want to use some other definition, then you are free to. If Porsche Outsourced the manufacturing of its beloved 911, would you not call that car a Porsche?

Since Porsches ASSEMBLED in Germany contain many outsourced parts (the transmissions are made in Japan), I would suggest your distinction is rather useless in everyday use.. At the end of the day, the nameplate, the title, the legal manufacturer are all Porsche.

Again, lets watch your tone if you choose to respond. This topic is certainly not worth any bickering.

Firstly, it was not my distinction but your distinction.

By defult that makes your distinction useless in everyday use.

I never made any 'distinction' other than a light-hearted remark about Skoda's.

I'm purely (albeit with a modicum of dry humour) seeking some clarity as you were appearing to set a definitive & indisputable criteria of what a real Porsche.

Secondly, if you are so quick to warn me to watch my tone, how about a warning regards the offensive racist tones used by some members when reffering to Japanese sports cars?

Lastly, I apologise if you were offended by my tone. I see this as bantering not bickering.

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[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by babyakiro

Firstly, it was not my distinction but your distinction.

By defult that makes your distinction useless in everyday use.

I never made any 'distinction' other than a light-hearted remark about Skoda's.

I'm purely (albeit with a modicum of dry humour) seeking some clarity as you were appearing to set a definitive & indisputable criteria of what a real Porsche.

Secondly, if you are so quick to warn me to watch my tone, how about a warning regards the offensive racist tones used by some members when reffering to Japanese sports cars?

Lastly, I apologise if you were offended by my tone. I see this as bantering not bickering.

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That may be. However, I will once again ask you to tone it down. We can all have fun here or we can make this like an argument.

I prefer fun.

Again, you are free to define a "Porsche" with any criteria you like.