these are the people that piss me off!!!

[babyakiro]

I tested both the 350Z & the G35 before deciding to go for the Boxster.

They are NOT just 'rice rockets' that mimic real sports cars like Porsches.

The 350Z is an outstanding car which handles extremely well, is powerful & quick and is a real alternative to the Boxster/Z4/TT group of sports cars.

They have great build integrity & no IMS or RMS problems.

The G35 is pretty much a 350Z with back seats.

I can't believe people on Porsche forums bash the 350Z with racist 'rice' comments & people on 350Z forums bash the Boxster for 'not being a real Porsche'

Nothing much wrong with either of them. It's just horses for courses. Not everyone will have the same tastes.

In the end the Boxster fitted my criteria more than the 350Z/G35 did, but so what? Does it mean I'm a poser for not buying a real Porsche? Does it make me NOT a REAL driving enthusiast for considering teh 350Z/G35?

I'm just pleased that manufacturers such as Nissan can be bothered to make cars as focussed & as sporting in nature as the 350Z these days, especially when rivals, Toyota, Mazda & Honda have no current alternatives. (no decent Supra? weak RX-8? & no NSX?) I'm also pleased that Porsche make an amazing range of 'affordable' sports cars to sit below their expensive (well, too expensive for me anyways!) 911 range.

If manufacturers have to build Cayenne's or Sentra's or Altima's or whatever else to be able to fund development & manufacture of the cars do I like then so be it. I'm not about to judge them for that or judge the people who buy them.

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One last comment on the subject, the new RS production limited edition celebrates the connection of the Boxster to the 550 spyder. Many debate whether the cars have a true union, despite the fact that the company that built both models says they do. The 550's were not powerful engined rockets, they were balanced track scathing ballerinas, beating many cars with higher horsepower. The 550 was one of the companies most successful racers. Excellence had a great article recently for those interested. Back to the 944 for a moment, the 924, even more maligned, came is a little package known as the 924 carerra GT. In an article of favorite cars from years past, many professional Porsche drivers chose the 924 GT as their favorite. As Mr. T might say, I pity the fool who doesn't recognize the signature boxed rockers, hood scoop and what it means, 210 HP puts it right in Boxsterland and the handling is superb. As the other guy said, to each his own, the 350Z is no slouch car to be sure.

[Brucelee]

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company.

Any dispute on this?

I believe some of your cars were made by the Valmet Automotive Inc. in Uusikaupunki, Finland.

ie. made FOR Porsche not BY Porsche.

So by your own rationale, Boxsters & Cayman built by Valmet are NOT real Porsches.

This being your Forum I guess yours is the last word.

Thank-you for clearing that up for everyone.

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[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by babyakiro

I believe some of your cars were made by the Valmet Automotive Inc. in Uusikaupunki, Finland.

ie. made FOR Porsche not BY Porsche.

So by your own rationale, Boxsters & Cayman built by Valmet are NOT real Porsches.

This being your Forum I guess yours is the last word.

Thank-you for clearing that up for everyone.

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The name on the invoice and the name on the title is Porsche. The legal liability for the car remains with Porsche.

I think the lawyers will back me up on this!

[babyakiro]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

The name on the invoice and the name on the title is Porsche. The legal liability for the car remains with Porsche.

I think the lawyers will back me up on this!

who mentioned legal liability? That has nothing to do with who MADE your beloved Porsche.

Fact: Valmet Automotive Inc. made your Porsche NOT Dr. Ing. h.c. F.Porsche AG - do you want to dispute that?

Your own words were:

"Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company"

Are you suddenly changing your judgement criteria on REAL Porsches to suddenly encompass all cars that ultimately have legal liability to Porsche?

If that's the case my cousin's Skoda Octavia is a real Porsche too!


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[unklekraker]

Grizz, Nick, Blink, DJ, cas951 and everyone else...who want's popcorn? Let me know, so I could go to Costco and buy a bulk size..I think this will be good for awhile

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by babyakiro

who mentioned legal liability? That has nothing to do with who MADE your beloved Porsche.

Fact: Valmet Automotive Inc. made your Porsche NOT Dr. Ing. h.c. F.Porsche AG - do you want to dispute that?

Your own words were:

"Here is how you can tell of REAL Porsche.

It was made by the Porsche company"

Are you suddenly changing your judgement criteria on REAL Porsches to suddenly encompass all cars that ultimately have legal liability to Porsche?

If that's the case my cousin's Skoda Octavia is a real Porsche too!


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No need for the attitude. If Porsche outsources manufacturing to some other company, the car is still legally a Porsche. If you want to use some other definition, then you are free to. If Porsche Outsourced the manufacturing of its beloved 911, would you not call that car a Porsche?

Since Porsches ASSEMBLED in Germany contain many outsourced parts (the transmissions are made in Japan), I would suggest your distinction is rather useless in everyday use.. At the end of the day, the nameplate, the title, the legal manufacturer are all Porsche.

Again, lets watch your tone if you choose to respond. This topic is certainly not worth any bickering.