Carrera GT Crash Case Settled at $4.5M

[mdex]

As an organizer of track events I am concerned about the 41% judged against the track and organizers. I would like to see how the blame was distributed, and also to know what waivers were signed. Up until this case, as far as I knew the track waivers that the insurance companies use had yet to be defeated in court (although this was a settlement).

Marc

Originally Posted by mdex

As an organizer of track events I am concerned about the 41% judged against the track and organizers. I would like to see how the blame was distributed, and also to know what waivers were signed. Up until this case, as far as I knew the track waivers that the insurance companies use had yet to be defeated in court (although this was a settlement).

Marc

Marc, did you read the whole article? You really need to. Then you'll understand more.

[pteam]

Sad story. Bless both of them. Porsche is dumb for not having PSM standard on CGT, even if they have 2 options one to partially disable it and one to fully disable it, then it was your choice. Stability control saves lives and even when racing if you partially disable it , it really only comes on when youve fuxed up.

[mdex]

Originally Posted by pteam

Sad story. Bless both of them. Porsche is dumb for not having PSM standard on CGT, even if they have 2 options one to partially disable it and one to fully disable it, then it was your choice. Stability control saves lives and even when racing if you partially disable it , it really only comes on when youve fuxed up.

If you are in too far PSM is of no help... I have seen many cars with PSM in the wall.

Marc

[kras]

It seems that waivers never hold up in court when there is "gross negligence." However, when someone dies, even minor things become "gross negligence."

Is it really gross negligence for Porsche to leave out PSM? It may be bad judgment or poor engineering or maybe even negligence, but I hardly consider it “gross” negligence. To me, gross negligence would be not bolting the seat belt down or a brake line that fails at high speeds.

But when someone dies, everything goes out the door, and it’s assumed that there must be gross negligence –and the waiver is worthless.
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Thats like me sueing porsche when I get in a wreck because my car doesnt have psm. My big thing is that they never re configured the track after the nascar thing, the wall was like a catchers mit for cars.

[Tool Pants]

In the real world all the defendants must have had liability insurance.

I doubt very much if food was taken off the plate of Ben Keaton's widow.

Do not know how accurate the story is. 99.9% of the time there is a confidentially agreement in a case like that.

If Porsche or it's insurance company paid 8% or $360,000 for the loss of one life (Rudal) then so be it. That is not even the cost of the vehicle that was crashed. Say what you want but Porsche is very protective of it's money.

Funny how sometimes you folks want to see a class action lawsuit about the RMS.

[mdex]

Originally Posted by bmussatti

Marc, did you read the whole article? You really need to. Then you'll understand more.

I did read it.. it still leaves many questions though, and depending on the interpretations this could be the end of track events.

If the waiver was beaten is huge (or did the parties just settle because they thought it might be beaten) as no one can risk this kind of judgement for something we do for fun.

I have to trust that statements etc, from my drivers are honest... if their car is out of sorts how am I to judge? We all hear rumors and BS that different drivers / cars are dangerous or out of sorts and 99% of the time it is unfounded.. so how can we know that this is the 1% case?

After 18 years of running events, without a single serious incident I am for the first time thinking of shutting down... the one thing that gave peace of mind was that we were covered by the Lloyds waivers that had never been beaten from this kind of suit.

Marc