Mirror Mirror on the Wall is this the poser's board after all?

[super66]

yeah, he was still around after that.....altho the defeat of MNBoxster would be more culturally impressive than beating the French huh CJ

you see man, I bit my tongue when I read that the first time but you see where people like him like to go when they are messed with if you can remember the whole race thread thing....oh brother....

anyways back to this post, I will say I went back to the PSM thread and found it pretty boring....it looked pretty simple..llike a billion other threads.....I will agree we have some big arguments that some owners show preference based on what they have even if they didn't experience the alternative first hand

1) 986 vs 987
2) wheels style/size....dj hates my boring "everyone" has them 19's then he goes and gets some of the baddest wheels I've seen (RUN DMC bad), I still have to see them in person..
3) apparently PSM, hey I got it came with the car
4) winter tires, my favorite.....the times I've seen I drove a blah with this and that and can say, or the best is some members from places like california saying the boxster will do this and that in the snow....really? lol....

but now I admitt I am a poser who simply loves how his car looks and zips around effortlessy, now does anyone know where to get some nice quality painting done to my calipers? calibers? whatever they are....and you thought I was kidding when I said poser

[Brucelee]

Why don't we let MNBoxster alone, that thread is ancient history.

And, what is a poser again? I get that all the time in the HD world. It seems the REAL HD guys don't like posers, whatever that means?

[SC986]

I'm with Brucelee, I don't get what the poser thing is about. Then again, I didn't read the PSM thread.

I agree with DJ, it seems there may be more detailed technical step by step responses on another board and I do see some of the same names there.

I don't read or post there much. I do come here evryday and my post count shows I don't post much. I know hardly anything about the Boxster still.

What I enjoy is reading post from people who love this car. It is one of the most friendly, easy going forums I've been on.

A BMW forum I was one was terrible. Name calling, every post was a bashing by the fully modded guys with a million post. Very nasty.

@rick3000, don't put words in my mouth or you're going to wear em. Your PSM post is exactly the kind of UN-helpful response to those looking for some insight.



@meerzee,

the 911 without doubt, is the higher performance model. Most 911 owners assuredly bought it for that reason. OTOH, the box is the lowest end Pcar, and I'm not so sure many here bought it for any other reason, i.e. mid engine, decent power, convertible design from the get-go,... etc.. The simple fact the vast majority of mods here consist of aesthetic rather than performance is clear enough.

It seems to me a fair amount bought it for "looks" and entry into the P-car fame. I do plan on 996/997 TT eventually, but the box will do for now. I may even keep the box if I can get some more power from it. Inherently I believe the box handles better than 911. Do I aspire for 911 because it was (enter CGT) the pinnacle of Porsche.... of course not, I want the power, and the back seats when the time comes. Also I do find the 911 forums more knowledgeable and more willing to mod their cars for performance.



First and foremost:

It's enormously appealing doing more with less, e.g. beating a 996 TT or GT3 around the track is a smokin accomplishment in a box. I would like that kind of performance. Hey I can dream :P. The lazy thinker says, "why don't you just go out and buy a GT3". No I don't think that HAS to be the case. I'll continue to hack.


Poser defined:

I hate misinformation. I would like to eradicate it. I am the type of person who will say I don't know something or I'll shut the f_ck up when I don't know. What is irritating, is a performance issue is being discussed and the poser group interjects with a veiled attempt at bolstering their own ignorance and pose as a performance oriented poster (better more skillful driver to do WITHOUT X,Y,Z). The result is a lot of noise, and the real issue is lost. All show, no go. MN boxster was famous for shooting down the merits of the S model because he owned a base.

In addition, I just do not see the same level of energy in seeking out performance as the pretty up posts. The poser is the box owner who talks like they're performance oriented yet prove to be about looks. That was MNboxster to a tee. He talked the talk, but when it came to walking, all he was worth was how to paint calipers. --Exactly what he had hypocritically dismissed--

To make this clear. I find nothing objectionable with the fuzzy dice, painted caliper crowd, if that is who you are. Own it. No big deal. I'd still help you out if I could. It's the "performance" mask I despise. Don't try and fool me into thinking you're about performance when you're not.




Having said all that, these are the type of statements that seem pervasive here.


Q: how can I get more HP from my car?

A: you can't really. it's a Pcar not a Vette. Stick to the factory design objective and live with it. It's a corner carver, not a dragster. Go away and get a Civic (Poor man's porsche snobbery peeking through)



Q: Are there any alternatives other than factory Porsche power?

A: take a driving course, in our infinite wisdom it will give you more Zen.



Q: is X option worth the price?

A: I never had X option, so I don't miss it, therefore neither will you. Those who have X option are inferior, because we do more with less.



Q: I want to mod my car beyond factory parts, what are my options?

A: You need to get a Civic, this is a Por-sche forum, we cater to tasteful imitations of Porsche's higher performance models, chiefly the front facia and brake caliper paint give most bang for the buck. We like the "look" and prestige of the higher models, but we don't want to pay full choke for it. We think we can palm it off and get 90% reaction for 10% the price.


In the end it's your ride, do what you want. I just want a little more honesty and open mindedness, that's all. Again, I fully appreciate we all have our differences and preferences. And I am in no way trying to assert my performance preference over your aesthetic ones, or establish some sort of "have vs. have not" elitism. I'm just tired of the posturing.

[SC986]

Sounds like Red Caliper Envy to me

If you hate us posers, hate our pretty for looks only interest, quit telling us about it and post elsewhere. I mean that in the honest most sincere way. Enough already.

Originally Posted by SC986

Sounds like Red Caliper Envy to me

If you hate us posers, hate our pretty for looks only interest, quit telling us about it and post elsewhere. I mean that in the honest most sincere way. Enough already.

Now I don't have to do I? Maybe you'd like a change yourself and do some growing up?


BTW, I have Red calipers from the factory, can I envy something I already have? Doesn't make much sense, does it? Perhaps you're thinking of "jealousy". Now that might make sense, but I have no ill feelings should anyone want to paint their calipers, just that it seems a waste of time. But that's just me.

Before you go further into this battle of wits with me, I suggest you get a grip on your command of the english language. You can bet I mean that in the most sincere way Here I'll get you started:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/poser

[der Geist]

First-this is the correct spelling POESUER

I think a good comparison would be a straight laced banker or lawyer who goes out and buys a bad ass Harley or chopper and tries to be a hard ass biker on weekends. Thinks he's HA because he's got a bike and leather vest.

As I recall the word originated back in the 80's around the time big hair bands were coming up. Many of these bands pretended to be hard core metal but were really pretty wimpy. Winger for example. In the context of this board I totally understand what boxterz is saying although I would defend anyones right to say whatever they like. At times the topics do go quite lame. Many are redundant and I think that the degree of some people to do anything on their own borders on the ridiculous. My personal pet peeve is when people use the word "twisties" to describe curved roads. I mean C'mon. Would you ever say this word in a conversation out loud ??? Sometimes I think there are too many unsolicited opinions. This is a discission board though sometimes I think it gets to be an opinion board and that is a little annoying to me. I think that this goes on at every board to some degree or another though it does seem to go on a little more here. I still read this board every day and do have ton of respect for most of the regular posters. Once in a while though I just gotta roll my eyes.

Firefox was invented so that you could open every thread you are interested in reading in thier own tab. That way you can close the ones you think are not to your liking. You might enjoy the board a litle more if you do this more often.

Overall you probably won't find a better auto board around. For sure not a better Porsche board.

[NickCats]

Boxsterz, thank you for answering my questions ( and I am NOT being sarcastic ). I now understand your original post, and whether I agree or not is irrelevant. I do appreciate your opinion, and I hope you will continue to visit, post, and contribute here.

Thanks for the clarification,

Nick

[Brucelee]

In the end it's your ride, do what you want. I just want a little more honesty and open mindedness, that's all. Again, I fully appreciate we all have our differences and preferences. And I am in no way trying to assert my performance preference over your aesthetic ones, or establish some sort of "have vs. have not" elitism. I'm just tired of the posturing.

Always beware of the man looking for more honesty, defined of course, by what he believes is the standard.

Again, the board is free for you to post, or not to, at your preference. I am sorry if we are not all up to your lofty standards, but we do what we can.


Your ego, on the other hand, may need to find another place to ply its trade.

So, lets move on and you can join us, or not!

[super66]

@ boxsterz hilarious!


Q: Are there any alternatives other than factory Porsche power?

A: take a driving course, in our infinite wisdom it will give you more Zen.

Q: is X option worth the price?

A: I never had X option, so I don't miss it, therefore neither will you. Those who have X option are inferior, because we do more with less.

@ der Geitst...what chu talkin bout 17 man, 17.....there's nothing wimpy about 17...lol

[Gary in BR]

I like our group here and hope it stays just the way it is.

Posers and all.

My new license plate....POSER TT

[Grizzly]

I'm pretty sure I'm going straight to Hell for laughing hysterically at Thumper's post.

EDIT: Thumper's post has been deleted, but I'm still going to Hell because while it was here, I laughed at it and I'm pretty sure God heard me.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

I'm pretty sure I'm going straight to Hell for laughing hysterically at Thumper's post.

EDIT: Thumper's post has been deleted, but I'm still going to Hell because while it was here, I laughed at it and I'm pretty sure God heard me.

Dang, I thought it was subject appropriate too......

Grizzly, I don't think your going to Hell for laughing at it, but you may have to wait in a longer line to get in.