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Franco 04-18-2007 07:14 PM

Humor is the best medicine, keep it acoming UNKLE :D
Now i must go make love to my immigrant wife ciao ;)

JackG 04-18-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unklekraker
hold on..popping more popcorn. would you like some butter? it's organic :D :dance:

No. The fake butter's better.

Say that three times fast. :cheers:

Grizzly 04-18-2007 07:44 PM

Americans have even managed to breed the civility out of French Poodles...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...011/poodle.jpg

unklekraker 04-18-2007 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackG
No. The fake butter's better.

Say that three times fast. :cheers:

Now I know where the brand "I can't believe it's butter" came from..it's from the fake butt is better...hahahahahaha!

2 thumbs up for you, Sir Jack! :cheers:

Peer 04-19-2007 01:43 AM

Franco wrote:
> Hi guys, now to respond to the original question my favorite forum
> peeve is when you guys HIJACK the threads and let your ego's do the
> typing , then i have to go back to "new posts"and verify if i clicked
> on the wrong thread but no i didn't it was some immigrants who didn't
> understand the original question.


"Immigrants who didn't understand the original question"..?! Hey, listen Franco -- I was the one who started this thread, so I know quite well what the "original question" was. And yes, I'm a Norwegian living in California, bulged-eyed by the literacy level of the American people.

-- peer

Rob-00BoxsterS 04-19-2007 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peer
Franco wrote:
....bulged-eyed by the literacy level of the American people.

-- peer

Why do you continue to generalize and insult (incorrectly I might add) the people from the country you choose to live in?

Says more about you than it does Americans.

z12358 04-19-2007 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peer
And yes, I'm a Norwegian living in California, bulged-eyed by the literacy level of the American people.

-- peer

peer, when in a hole, first stop digging. I still believe you didn't really mean this, and that your (US) university is one of those still good enough to teach you the pitfalls of generalization. Just IMO.
Z.

super66 04-19-2007 05:41 AM

66 now 67 posts......you knew there had to be a fight brewing in here somewhere :D If I could only get this response rate to why my radio sucks or how to remove my frickin side vents...

my pet peeve are the people that complain excessively about typing....it really isn't that bad on this here site.....face it guys, its a forum, I'm not typing my post for an A on my paper :D

now if you'll excuse me, back to being a lazy merican :cheers:

kracker, hilarious on the popcorn comment!

unklekraker 04-19-2007 05:48 AM

someone has to throw humors, right :D I would love to make some comment but, this place/forum is a cool place to hang out with to start an arguement :)

since it's only 6:45am here, I put the popcorn aside and now toasting a bagel and drinking coffee while watching..anyone wants some bagel and coffee :D

Peer 04-19-2007 06:04 PM

Rob-00BoxsterS wrote:
> Why do you continue to generalize and insult (incorrectly I might
> add) the people from the country you choose to live in?

How's pointing to a well known fact insulting? Pray tell. Perhaps you also think my poll was insulting? If so, I apologize.

z12358 wrote:
> I still believe you didn't really mean this, and that your (US)
> university is one of those still good enough to teach you the
> pitfalls of generalization.

The "pitfalls of generalization"..? Well, among the nuggets I picked up from my statistics classes were that even a phrase like 'American people' is a general term. Hence, the following is a true & correct statement; the illiteracy level of the American people is among the highest in the industrialized world. If that feels like a "pitfall" to you, then I apologize also to you.

Now, can't we just let this silly thread die?

Love, peace, and understanding.

-- peer

silverboxter 04-19-2007 06:47 PM

uhh...I really hate it when people key "break" when they really mean "brake".


ps does the period go inside the parernthesis or outside? : )

JackG 04-19-2007 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peer
Rob-00BoxsterS wrote:
> Why do you continue to generalize and insult (incorrectly I might
> add) the people from the country you choose to live in?

How's pointing to a well known fact insulting?

Your "fact" is in some dispute.

z12358 wrote:
> I still believe you didn't really mean this, and that your (US)
> university is one of those still good enough to teach you the
> pitfalls of generalization.

The "pitfalls of generalization"..? Well, among the nuggets I picked up from my statistics classes were that even a phrase like 'American people' is a general term. Hence, the following is a true & correct statement; the illiteracy level of the American people is among the highest in the industrialized world. If that feels like a "pitfall" to you, then I apologize also to you.
peer

No one blames you for repeating the fallacies that you've been taught. Here are some counter-points:

"When it comes to international comparisons, it's essential to remember that there is no standard definition of literacy and that many nations rely on self-reporting: in the census, people are often asked "Can you read and write" or even "Can you read and write your name", and the answer for this question is then simply accepted.

Many Europeans gleefully latch on to this figure about the US but then fail to critically examine how literacy numbers are generated in their own countries. Many European countries have sizeable immigrant populations from poor countries in which illiteracy is very common. It's surprising, therefore, that these populations apparently do no exceed 0.01% of the general population. When I've raised this matter in casual conversations with European friends, they tend to respond, "Ah, but those people are Somalis/Turks/Berbers/Pakistanis/Kurds/Nepalis, not real Swedes/Germans/French/Italians/Britons, so they don't count." Non-citizens, including those without legal papers, most certainly did count in the National Adult Literacy Survey (as they should have), and this also needs to be borne in mind
."

You must question all data points. Maybe that's a class you didn't take?

Peer 04-20-2007 01:20 AM

JackG wrote:
> in the census, people are often asked "Can you read and write"

This is not accurate. The international illiteracy census is quite more intricate than that. For example, it comprises items that are shared among the industrialized countries -- in addition to standardized reading & writing, it also includes daily/trivial things like finding the expiration date on a credit card, reading street signs, etc. And following this thread on this forum, it wouldn't surprise me that it will soon also include reading the instructions for microwave popcorn.

-- peer

z12358 04-20-2007 03:59 AM

Even if it was a 'fact' (which it is not), maybe it's not like that in Norway, but here you don't come to someone's house, have dinner that their mother cooked and served, and after all that you start reminding them about the fact that their mother is fat.

You were given a few helping hands to get yourself out of the hole that you dug yourself into. Stubbornly, you seem to prefer to keep digging.

Z.

unklekraker 04-20-2007 04:21 AM

yah, i was following this thread and totally forgot that microwave should be set to 2 1/2 minutes in med. setting not high settings...now I got smoked flavor popcorn...anyone want some? :D

Happy Friday Y'all :cheers:

Rob-00BoxsterS 04-20-2007 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unklekraker
yah, i was following this thread and totally forgot that microwave should be set to 2 1/2 minutes in med. setting not high settings...now I got smoked flavor popcorn...anyone want some? :D

Happy Friday Y'all :cheers:

LOL. We keep lighting the fuse and you keep blowing it out.

Good job!

Every forum should have a dedicated "Popcorn Popper".

Happy Friday to you also......

JackG 04-20-2007 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peer
JackG wrote:
> in the census, people are often asked "Can you read and write"

This is not accurate. The international illiteracy census is quite more intricate than that. For example, it comprises items that are shared among the industrialized countries -- in addition to standardized reading & writing, it also includes daily/trivial things like finding the expiration date on a credit card, reading street signs, etc. And following this thread on this forum, it wouldn't surprise me that it will soon also include reading the instructions for microwave popcorn.

-- peer

You keep missing the point. There is no "international illiteracy census". There is no international standard test to measure illiteracy. Everyone does it their own way, so the results can't be compared on equal footing. Additionally, a simple google search will reveal that the published figures vary all over the place depending on who is publishing them and for what reason they were published.

It's a wonderful thing to be able to read, but even more important is to be able to understand simple concepts. ;)

unklekraker 04-20-2007 05:47 AM

Thanks Rob! I don't mind being the guy who wear red vest serving popcorn or the usher with the flashlight while you guys watch :D

@Jack..I give you props, dude! :cheers:

MNBoxster 04-20-2007 05:57 AM

Hi,

I still can't believe I'm on the Sideline on this one... :)

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Rob-00BoxsterS 04-20-2007 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNBoxster
Hi,

I still can't believe I'm on the Sideline on this one... :)

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Come on, Jim, get in the Game!


Engage, Maveric, engage.....


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