03-15-2007, 04:23 PM
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My brother (retired cop) recommended the 18" shotgun to me, pref a pump 10 guage. However, we debated the pump vs the double barrel.
Either way, you can pretty much be a crappy shot and hit the entire front door just as the perp enters.
Now, here in CA, I would have to hire a defense atty as it isn't clearly legal to kill someone who just knocked down your front door.
Go figure! I'm moving soon, so to H,, with CA.
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03-15-2007, 04:25 PM
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Not legal to kill intruders in NY either, deadly force can only be used when confronted with deadly force. then you have the intangible of a jury, I like the knife idea a lot. Even better if we all never have to choose.
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03-15-2007, 04:29 PM
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Actually the coolest move I ever saw was the seal being screwed with by my cousin in the lake. Next thing I knew Bob had him totally underwater, out of sight with his legs only, just smiling as he appeared to be recreating in the water like everyone else. I can tell you this, what those guys can do in the water is astounding.
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03-15-2007, 04:45 PM
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I'm glad Texas is a 'Castle Doctrine' state.
You break into my house for ANY reason, I'm well within my rights to ventilate you. I like it that way... it's a deterrent to hot home invasions.
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03-15-2007, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbth
Dude , I'm glad the danger has passed and that your family is OK.
Law of averages dictates that unless you run with a sketchy crowd,you are well past your lifetime chances of psycho intruders.
Gun control is a hot button issue , I guess bleeding the heart crowd has the night off ,or is keeping quiet in fear of getting shouted (or gunned) down.
Too bad those poor auxiliary officers murdered in NYC last nighty were unarmed...
This thread turned crazy , glad race analysis was not a factor.
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Being born and raised in the Greater NY area, I'm familiar with attitudes about the hot topic of gun control. My parents were part of that crowd. But think about this: the same crowd which hates government, hates terror spy-tapping, hates the war, hates the patriot act, hates most capitalism, and "loves" "free speech" is the same crowd willing to cede the government sole monopoly having all firearms.
p.s. The following is predicated on stereotypes, either true or percieved, of course.
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03-16-2007, 05:43 AM
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After reading everyone's preferences for home defense weapons, I would like to point out how important a flashlight is. The new gen weapons lights like the Surefire X200 are blindingly bright and will at the very least make a perp flinch and ruin his night vision. Most importantly, though, is it allows positive target identification. I have night sights on all my pistols, but you want to make sure you aren't shooting your teenager when he sneaks back into the house in the middle of the night. And another cool thing about them is that at short (read defensive) ranges, point of impact is pretty close to the focus of the light, so it's point and shoot which is easier than trying to take aim which you won't be able to do under stress unless you train that way all the time.
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03-16-2007, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dmcutter
After reading everyone's preferences for home defense weapons, I would like to point out how important a flashlight is. The new gen weapons lights like the Surefire X200 are blindingly bright and will at the very least make a perp flinch and ruin his night vision. Most importantly, though, is it allows positive target identification. I have night sights on all my pistols, but you want to make sure you aren't shooting your teenager when he sneaks back into the house in the middle of the night. And another cool thing about them is that at short (read defensive) ranges, point of impact is pretty close to the focus of the light, so it's point and shoot which is easier than trying to take aim which you won't be able to do under stress unless you train that way all the time.
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