Some one tried to break in last night!!!!!

[dmcutter]

Dang, that little .22 is cute, almost looks like a grown up gun! My bedside piece is a .45 cal Springfield Armory TRP Operator with a Surefire X200 light on the rail. My wife always says I'll just sleep through anyone breaking in, but I think my Spider sense will wake me up...

[jeffsquire]

Originally Posted by dmcutter

Dang, that little .22 is cute, almost looks like a grown up gun! My bedside piece is a .45 cal Springfield Armory TRP Operator with a Surefire X200 light on the rail. My wife always says I'll just sleep through anyone breaking in, but I think my Spider sense will wake me up...

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OK, since we're revealing all, I've got a SIG SAUER 228, Glock 19 and 17, Beretta Px4 and many other types of rifles and shotguns. Trained to use them all. For me guns give me an extra sense of security. Not for other folks, I imagine.

[SD987]

Jeff, you live in Michigan...we already assumed you had the minimum number (10) of semi and fully automatic weapons required by state law.

[jeffsquire]

Originally Posted by SD987

Jeff, you live in Michigan...we already assumed you had the minimum number (10) of semi and fully automatic weapons required by state law.

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Machine guns are illegal in MI, but if they were'nt I'd own a few. Of course we shouldnt call them machine. . . .just something more friendlier. How about "repeatative."

Excuse me but I'm leaving to go online to purchase some green tea pungi sticks, enviromental friendly smokeless gunpowder with cinnamon spice scent, Free Range steel core ammunition, happy handgrenades, "somerassault" weapons for toddlers, lead-free plasticine bullets, redsand-putty Claymore mines and some "natures' way-LAW rockets -all for my home. Gotta feed Fluffy the friendly attack dog, buy some acid free wire cage for my dive-bombing homing pidgeons, and make sure to put a warning sticker for my new Tesla selectric/electric security system, so I don't get sued.

Boy, JAAY's got me paranoid after his attempted break-in. I'm acting and sounding crazy.. . . .what was that noise???

[FrayAdjacent]

CJ,

Actually the shotgun with the right loads, even buckshot, would be LESS likely to penetrate as many walls as your .22, or any other pistol or rifle. See, round balls lose velocity pretty quick.

Check out www.boxotruth.com for some practical penetration tests. You might be surprised.

As far as someone you shoot with a .22 wanting to watch Discovery HD with you...

Some hyped up crackhead kicking in your door isn't likely to be persuaded, or much affected by such a small round.

I hope you never have to find out that your .22 is inadequate.

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by dmcutter

Dang, that little .22 is cute, almost looks like a grown up gun! My bedside piece is a .45 cal Springfield Armory TRP Operator with a Surefire X200 light on the rail. My wife always says I'll just sleep through anyone breaking in, but I think my Spider sense will wake me up...

It is cute isnt it... Had to get something low caliber do that if the GF needed to fire it, she could without getting scared of the recoil. I was thinking of getting a Stainless Ruger p95 but 9mm is too scary for the gf to fire.

[dmcutter]

I recall reading a couple years ago about some terrorists throwing up a roadblock and trying to kidnap a member of the Colombian olympic marksmanship team. He took out his .22 target pistol and calmly dispatched them all. I guess caliber is much like horsepower...it isn't how much of it you have, it's how well you can use it. See, this thread does belong on the Box board.

[70Sixter]

Originally Posted by dmcutter

I recall reading a couple years ago about some terrorists throwing up a roadblock and trying to kidnap a member of the Colombian olympic marksmanship team. He took out his .22 target pistol and calmly dispatched them all. I guess caliber is much like horsepower...it isn't how much of it you have, it's how well you can use it. See, this thread does belong on the Box board.

There is .22 and there is high powered .22 like the high velocity .223 hornet or 5.56 NATO round used in the M-16 (and others). I don't think a .22LR will bounce around much or do much damage unless it hits a vital organ.

Now an M-16 hit is likely to ricochet internally if it hits bone. But not if it only strikes soft tissue.

For larger caliber you want more mass and less velocity for knock-down power. My .45 ACP rounds do this nicely. I just prefer a revolver for home defense. Less chance of jam. And many of us old timers don't like to keep a round in the .45 chamber. But if you don't keep one there, chambering a round gives an assailant a wake-up call to shoot first.

[vouvoune]

some people put a sticker from an alarm company on their door and a sign in their front yeard. Insurance companies claim that, statistically, criminals decide against breaking into a house when crossing these visuals. They'd rather go with a simplest target (which makes sense)...So, that's the cheapest way to be safer. Getting the real thing is evidently better but buying these stickers/ signs on ebay for a few bucks cannot hurt if you don't have the money for an alarm...gotta be creative sometimes!

[z12358]

Funny, I was just reading on another forum how British cops don't carry guns.

Z.

[FrayAdjacent]

CZ provides my home security:

[FrayAdjacent]

CJ... Get a bigger gun.

A .22 is NOT a good option for self defense. It is probably THE least likely to stop a threat.

The best option (and this is my opinion, and opinions on this subject will widely vary) would be a decent 9mm autoloader. A Glock 19, Beretta 92F, CZ75B...

It is very VERY unlikely you'll ever need it... but it's like car insurance, and the .22 just won't cover you.

[David N.]

I prefer a shotgun when it comes to active home protection. It minimizes the chance of accidentally hitting someone else (I'm more worried about thin walls than bad aim), and it's a really great form of passive protection. There's a reason cops will always have them, the sound of the pump alone is sometimes enough to dissuade an intruder.

Although first I would recommend some security company signs (even fakes ones) and a good home emergency plan for everyone in the house to know and practice.

-David

[CJ_Boxster]

Originally Posted by FrayAdjacent

CJ... Get a bigger gun.

A .22 is NOT a good option for self defense. It is probably THE least likely to stop a threat.

The best option (and this is my opinion, and opinions on this subject will widely vary) would be a decent 9mm autoloader. A Glock 19, Beretta 92F, CZ75B...

It is very VERY unlikely you'll ever need it... but it's like car insurance, and the .22 just won't cover you.

I was thinking about going bigger but i havent a need for a larger caliber gun since i moved to belonte shores acouple days ago, i live in a nice area now, I use the .22 for target practice cause ammo for a 22 is alot cheaper. CCI 100 rds 22lr $5 at walmart. I mean if someone does break in and i have to shoot, im sure the person getting shot isnt going say "Hey thats a 22, there for ill stay and watch some DiscoveryHD." They do make hollow Points for .22 caliber Long Rifles like my P22 so as far as home protection. I feel im ok, i dont want the persons head to explode....unless i have a high speed camera rolling.

I did have a Mossberg 590 12 gauge shotgun with a pistolgrip top folding stock & heat sheild but too damn expensive to use at any range and if i shot that thing i would be worried that the rounds went through the walls and kill my neighbors so i sold it....Looked like this VVV

[Ghostrider 310]

When I think things may be turning ugly at the house I just go get Sam...


Samuel L Colt .45