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Old 03-22-2007, 05:39 AM   #1
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Agreed with Adam. That is a seriously shady eBay listing. You make no mention of the missing parts whatsoever.

You really should revise your listing to let people know you can't install the shifter you're selling unless they buy extra parts!
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:46 AM   #2
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Yeah...imagine someone getting all excited of installing the new B&M they just won from Ebay, pulling out the whole center console only to determine at the last minute that it can't be installed because there are parts missing. Should at least indicate that you need to buy two additional parts to complete the installation, imo.
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Old 03-22-2007, 07:44 AM   #3
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The truth is I bought my shifter on e-bay and that was the way it was sold to me and the way they wrote it. ALL I DID WAS RE-COPY ITAND PASTE IT INTO MY AUCTION. I removed my earlier message. Hope this makes you happy. AND I DID MAKE MY OWN POST FOR MY SHIFTER SEVERAL WEEKS AGO. I sold it and then refunded the seller his money after he saw it did not have all of the parts. I'm not trying to be shady, I just want to get rid of it at this point. I will refund the person thier money again if needed. But the shifter can be installed if they do enough research on what is involved.
So because someone on eBay screwed you, you're going to screw someone else?

Yes, you are being shady. That shifter is worthless without the bushings. B+M won't sell you just the bushing (I tried), so your other option is to pony up $100 for the Evo bushings - or make your own.

Good to know what kind of people we have on this board.
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:22 AM   #4
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How is what I am doing any different from Adam's post? He too is missing the parts.
Again, I'm not trying to be shady, I know people are smart enough to figure out the shifter CAN be installed with the stock bushings. You can't cut them out, you have to re-use them along with the stock "c" clips. It does work with the stock parts, you just have to use your head when installing the shifter.
The difference is I said there were parts missing. Your ebay listing made no reference what so ever to missing parts and was misleading. If the shifter is so easy to install with the stock parts why didn't you install it?
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:29 AM   #5
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Got you both beat.

Maybe I should sell this on ebay....
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Old 03-22-2007, 09:38 AM   #6
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LOL, nice one Tool Pants. Hey, you've probably done a couple hundred of these B&M installs. Do you think the B&M shifter can be used with the stock bushings? Have you seen or heard of it done before? Can the old shifter be removed without breaking the stock bushings?
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:30 AM   #7
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LOL, nice one Tool Pants. Hey, you've probably done a couple hundred of these B&M installs. Do you think the B&M shifter can be used with the stock bushings? Have you seen or heard of it done before? Can the old shifter be removed without breaking the stock bushings?
Porsche does not sell the oem bushings.

At our work on cars days I have tried several times to remove the oem bushings without having to break the tabs off, so that the bushings could be reused if need be. Was not able to do it.

But I saw this on ebay and it looks like someone got them out.
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:13 AM   #8
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How is what I am doing any different from Adam's post?
Yes, but Adam clearly stated that his shifter was missing parts! If you just stated that in your ad I doubt anybody would be complaining.

Nobody sells the bushings by themselves. Call up B+M and ask them yourself, they will not sell you just the bushings. You cannot get stock bushings from Porsche. You are correct that if you're careful you can remove the stock bushings without destroying them, but it's misleading to not tell your potential buyers that you're expecting that of them.

I had to make my own bushings for exactly this reason!
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