Stainless Steel Exhaust and Rear Spoiler

[ins_man]

OK. I just bought this car. I think it is so freakin sexy but the exhaust and rear spoiler is just too much for me. This will be my daily driver out selling insurance and recruiting agents. I want to go back to factory exhaust for sure. It sounds like I am trying to bait every vehicle around me into a race. The seller gave me the factory exhaust as this stainless system is less than 2 months old. He said it cost $1800. I may or may not keep the spoiler. I have seen smaller ones that look more "factory upgrade". I really don't know what to ask for any of it. I want be fair both ways. Any ideas or thoughts would be great. Thanks.

[schnellman]

If you were to take the spoiler off and throw it into the nearest dumpster you would be ahead of the game.

[tommy986]

and replace the flat black front and rear deck lids.

[Johnny Danger]

I'd be willing to bet that's a $300 Charlie Chan muffler, and not an $1800 exhaust .

[Tieniber]

Dear lord, get that thing off your Porsche!

[stateofidleness]

If you need a stock exhaust, I have one off my 2000 base for sale. I'm in Texas as well so might be able to get away from shipping hassles. I agree, looks like Chan muffler (what I have on mine). You can keep the spoiler though

what part of Texas you at?

[Overdrive]

I would definitely let the spoiler go...and someone on the forum is looking for one like that for his Boxster race car, so maybe you two can work out a deal.

As for the exhaust, I doubt he paid that much for it if he couldn't tell you what brand it was or the company/source he purchased it from, cause I know if I were saying it cost $1800 I'd probably be putting a name like Fabspeed right behind that figure.

I'm hoping beyond hope that the matte black on your trunk lids is simply a vinyl or something like plasti-dip and can just be peeled off...it really doesn't look good.

I'm not sure what folks you recruit tend to be impressed by, but if it were me I'd be more impressed by a nice, clean-looking Boxster than one that is trying to look like something it's not. It's your car ultimately, but I'd say lose the spoiler and maybe see if the gent looking for a spoiler for his race car (look for the thread in the racing section, as I can't recall his user name at the moment) might want to purchase it from you. There are plenty of other aftermarket options out there that are much more docile, and strictly for looks rather than actual function, but they'd at least look much more classy than the wanna-be ALMS GT car wing.

Anyways, I know you didn't post this for people to critique your car ad infinitum. If this exhaust turns out to be a TopSpeed unit, you're looking at something worth about $350 for the muffler, and very likely to find someone on here who wants it. I'm not sure what year your car is, but if it's a 2000 or younger and has the cat bypass pipes, those are also very desirable and likely to be taken off your hands quickly. Just make sure the seller didn't just give you the muffler or you'll either need to keep those pipes or get replacements (if you have them). If your car is 97-99 you won't have or need these pipes and will only need to check whether or not you also have a different header. If it's just the muffler section that's aftermarket, you're not that far away from having a regular sounding Boxste again (which is fine, they sound pretty good even if they're a bit quiet in stock form).

Good luck with the sale and car.

[Johnny Danger]

Since you're located in Texas, I would see if Mission Control in Houston might be interested in the wing ?

[Saudin801]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

Since you're located in Texas, I would see if Mission Control in Houston might be interested in the wing ?

No doubt the wing is horrid. It doesn't belong on any car, race-car or not. With that said I find you comments extremely rude especially since you own a riced out Boxster as well. Forgive me if I've confused you with someone else but I remember seeing a not so pretty multi-vented yellow Boxster. :ah:

[t2-bxtrs]

This is what happens when a nice Boxster ends up in the wrong hands...! just no taste and no clue on what to do.... what a waste to ruin such a nice thing !
oh well....

[BrokenLinkage]

Those wheels look nice, and the deck lids may well be lighter-than-stock carbon fiber, and in any event they can be repainted. Most of us like the sound of our engines, right up to the point of wake-the-neighbor's kids Harley Davidson anti-socialism. :troll:The spoiler is a bit much visually, but hey, downforce is good, right. And since the heavier stock self-retracting spoiler is probably already gone, he is ready to install a classy replacement in his car before painting the lid. And meanwhile, he has a ********************in fun ride! More so than just about any other brand,Porsche owners seem to want to put their own personal mark on the cars, even when brand new. It is just that there is some unwritten code to try to stay within the spirit of the cars creation. So everyone, stop acting so jealous that this car has a head start on your efforts. Each of us secretly knows that own personal car's option mix is the best,anyway!

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Saudin801

No doubt the wing is horrid. It doesn't belong on any car, race-car or not. With that said I find you comments extremely rude especially since you own a riced out Boxster as well. Forgive me if I've confused you with someone else but I remember seeing a not so pretty multi-vented yellow Boxster. :ah:

Pal, the only thing that's rice around here, is what's between your ears ! You obviously can't discern the difference between a well "tuned" boxster that represents a culmination of top German products and equipment from your Mormon Tabernacle special .

[Saudin801]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

Pal, the only thing that's rice around here, is what's between your ears ! You obviously can't discern the difference between a well "tuned" boxster that represents a culmination of top German products and equipment from your Mormon Tabernacle special .

You would think older men would have a more refined taste. I bet you love when little kids come up to you and tell you how cool your yellow Cockster looks, Pal. "Danger, is this a trasnformers car?" Getting offended only showed us your insecurity with the only Boxster version of the Bubble-Bee.

You're personality is hideous. Thanks for calling me Asian and Mormon, you're one massive racist. There is no point in telling you I'm neither of those. :troll:

That's all.

[ins_man]

Thanks guys for the input. I think. Some of it was a little harsh. The pics don't show the detail in the wing and the front and back lids. They are not "horrid". They are very nicely done carbon fiber vinyl design. Still, it's not the type of Porsche that I want to drive. I may very well keep the vinyl carbon fiber on the lids because it helps contrast the prominent purple that the car throws off in certain light. But, it will probably have to go anyway. I do think I will get rid of the white sticker on the front of the car. I had the exhaust fixed yesterday. They could not put the two factory side pipes (converters ??) back on because the angle of the new headers. So, I will have those to sell. They were able to reinstall the factory muffler. It sounds nice.
I would like to take the wing off and replace it with a smaller, less "Fast and Furious" spoiler and the Boxster emblem. The problem at this point is the drill holes that will be left behind. Not a big deal, I know. Just fix it. A few things at a time though. I bought the car on Friday. I have already repaired the radio, the drivers seat and the exhaust.
For reference - This is a '99. I live in East Texas between Dallas and Texarkana. I am in a small town where there is no Porsche parts, mechanics, experts, or really anyone who has an opinion on what a "real" Porsche should look or sound like. I could leave this thing alone and be invited to participate in every parade that we have. LOL
I am new to Porsche and new to the whole forum thing as well.
Thank you all for your patients and input.

[Kroggers]

Originally Posted by Overdrive

I would definitely let the spoiler go...and someone on the forum is looking for one like that for his Boxster race car, so maybe you two can work out a deal.

That would be me

Send me a PM if you want to part with that spoiler - I can use it as a starting point for my racing car if we can come to an agreement...

[Jaxonalden]

Kenny Boxster & ins_man,

My thoughts and prayers go out to you and everyone else in the Dallas and the NE I-30 corridor areas, all the way to Greenville. Hope you all are alright and damage is at a minimum. I travel down their for work all the time and watching the news last night made me sick to my stomach watching all the destruction.

Stay strong

[ins_man]

Wow. That was fun. We had 4 twisters touch down within 10 miles from my home.
Kenny Boxster is in Arlington, I believe. Which was hit really bad. They declared a state of emergency there. I hope all is well with Kenny.

[mump]

Yes. Please do not try to sell the spoiler. Walk around to the backyard and bury it...never to be spoken of again.

[madmods]

LOLL "pretty multi-vented yellow Boxster". Danger com'onnnn you have to admit this is a good one mate

OP - RE the rear spoiler. They are used for high speed cornering. If I were you, I'd do a Before & After trial at your nearest circuit before tossing it away. Those spoiler provide amazing downforce if I am correct. The one you have is a generic spoiler and fit any car. However it is shaped as it was designed by a serious performance professional. Drop by the circuit during the next open track day and bring it over to the car guys. Some there pays very good money for those

And avoid posting anything other than sporty show-off Bling Blings on 986forum in the future Otherwise it creates problems

[Overdrive]

Glad to hear you're still intact, ins_man.

Kroggers, I simply could not remember your forum name and forgot to go back to your post and look it up to drop in here. I hope you two can work out a deal...it's always good to see members helping each other out.

My apologies if anything I mentioned before was said in any harsh way. Don't take it personally, it's directed more toward the person who set the car up that way before you bought it, not you for owning it. To be a little more diplomatic with my verbiage this time around, and though I'll likely be repeating myself, having that big spoiler out back without having something equally downforce-inducing up front (functional splitter or a GT3-style bumper) will actually have bad effects on the car's aerodynamics at speed. Also, just because a spoiler looks like it came off the back of a race car doesn't mean it will actually do any serious downforce inducing. We've seen plenty of useless pieces of plastic and "carbon fibre" on the backs of many a street car that's worth less than the spoiler itself...sometimes you'd be better off just mounting a 2x4 to some steel trusses and hanging that off the deck of a Ford Probe.

I digress since I'm doing it again: While I imagine you're not looking to take all 201 crank horsepower up into the triple digit speeds on a regular basis, if you ever do with that car as it stands now, it could start exhibiting some strange handling characteristics.

The stock spoiler is there to counteract some rear end lift that starts when you pass 75mph and gets increasingly worse as your speed increases. Without it the car would get extremely squirmy out back and the rear end will be ready to float out and come around on you in anything other than a perfectly straight line. I'm not trying to scare-monger you and say that it will happen, just saying it's a serious possibility. Putting anything other than a spoiler designed for the car (read: AeroKit or AeroKit II) will affect the ability for sufficient downforce to be applied to the rear end. If the spoiler does produce more downforce than stock you also run the risk of the front end getting light...not something you want with the wheels that steer. On the other end of the spectrum, some folks put a GT3-type bumper up front and nothing extra (and functional) out back, and that creates a situation where the front end receives much more push down than the rear.

If you're just going to be cruising around, then your worries are minimal and you'd see no real harm in putting on a different permanent spoiler or modification to the retractable one (see Johnny Danger's car for what I mean on the latter) that will look nicer. There are plenty of options out there that can be applied that will look much better than what's there now. They may have more form than function, but they're not as overdone.

Don't take the behavior in this thread as the norm, even I found some of the exchanges above to be a bit unnecessary. Overall everyone here is very helpful and are not trying to make you feel like an idiot to make themselves feel better.

You'll find that the car is set up pretty nicely out the box, so adding to it or changing anything is really more of a "want" than a "need", maybe with the exception being adding something like the M030 sport suspension option to it (check the white sticker under your front trunk lid and see if there is a "030" among any of the 3-digit numbers on it...if so then you've already got that option)...but even that isn't truly needed. The car handles very well as it was built, especially for any kind of spirited street driving. Enjoy it.