[Perfectlap]

^ very true you should see my carbon fiber bicycle's rear triangle flex when out of the saddle hill climbing. These guys can do amazing things nowadays.
But ohh so expensive. I lusted after a Fondriest frame made from F1 grade CF (they had a former F1 Ferrari engineer) but they couldn't make the darn things for less than $6K and eventually went out of business. Too bad, best bike I ever owned (partially CF).