[MNBoxster]

Originally Posted by silvered

You guys make me laugh,...

me too, but for probably different reasons

IMO MNBoxster is being a little irrational with his comment...

Of course everyone has their opinions and are entitled to them. Interestingly, I share the same one about you. It's all opinion here and people are free to act as they wish, or place whatever weight they choose


What he is implying, is that the 'Performance Software Industry' as a whole is fraudulent! ...

Not at all, it's the value of their (your) claims that I question. Mention Independent Lab Verification and Testing, and you guys scatter like Mice at a Feline Convention!

I'll even concede that there is more gain to be found in a base Vtec Engine then there ever will be from an M96 Flat Six one.

But, there is a way to settle this - Put your money where your mouth is - give me a chip for a stock 2.7L (so I cannot be accused of trying to benefit from all this as I have a 2.5L). Allow me to choose a Car, and 2 Independent Testing Laboratories, which you pay for, and run the Tests. I will even average out the results to eliminate any testing Bias. I have no Axe to grind - if your product truly poses a benefit and real improvement (10% or better), I'm happy to report such. I'd even allow you to use my testimonial and methodology in your advertising - free of charge! Do we have a deal??...

In 2006, SEMA estimated that engine control software tuning (ECU tuning) as an industry produces over $1Bn per annum.

Proving only that there is one born every minute. I wonder how large STP's Market was in the '70's? Andy Granatelli made a fortune repackaging 90W Gear Oil - it quieted engines - no wonder... They made extra horsepower too...

I can also show literally thousands of customers that HAVE NOT taken us up on our generous 14-day trial. Once a client feels the extra performance, they are reluctant to take it out...

Can you say Placebo Effect?...


It is true that in general there is not as much performance to be gained on a NASP vehicle than there is with forced induction - but I am not sure that you are truly in a position to preach what is to be considered 'worth the money' for others...

Agreed - certainly no more so than you...

BUT - the best post Jim'99 was this one... your posts possess the factual relevancy of 5th Grade science report.

Again an opinion, to which you are certainly entitled...

The fact of the matter is that our equipment gives us full control over many functions of the engine. These functions allow us to take advantage of high octane gasoline and optimize the engines response time. In the same way that a customer goes and spends $15,000 on the X51 package at the dealership ...

Yea, I bet you have Porsche on the run... that's why they void the warranty if they find software embedded in, or tampering with the DME...


Bavarian, please feel free to keep on testing it out to make sure your happy. If you are not, then just give us a call and we can put you back to stock...

Just don't go past that 14-day window or you'll hear an entirely different tune, and never take it for warranty repair or the Dealer will find out that the car has been tampered with...

Enjoy the drive!...

You too!...

Trav

Hi,

See above...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99