[QUOTE=MNBoxster]Jack,
You're missing my point, which is, the added benefit of the 'S' Brakes is all but unrealizable on a Street Car.
--- I disagree. The S brake's benefit are immediately realized with shorter stopping distances.
If you wanna get the best brakes possible, then the PCCBs are the way to go, a worse cost/benefit ratio for a Street Car than even the 'S' brakes. They're only better in real terms if you use that added capability, which most Street Cars won't.
-- Agreed.
So far as the 7ft. shorter distance, again, somewhat moot insofar as most people adjust their driving habits to the capability of the brakes. People with the shorter stopping 'S' brakes will tend to apply the brakes
later, they will not leave an additional 7' between them and the car in front of them at a stoplight for instance. Could 7' make a difference in possible collision avoidance, in some circumstances - yes.
--- What? Are you saying that people use their brakes at maximum potential whenever they stop behind a car at an intersection? Bullslip. 99% of the people will only use their brakes at maximum potential when they need them most... in a panic situation, or on the track. In both cases, the S brakes are superior. Otherwise, according to you, we'd all be getting rear-ended while using our S brakes at maximum potential at every stoplight as we adjust to use up that 7 feet.
But there's no reason to believe that you won't need 11' or even 8' to avoid it, which the 'S' brakes won't give you either. To be sure, such a collision will be at a lower speed, possibly reducing damage or injury, but the actual difference in MPH at contact wouldn't have any real significance.
--- if, maybe, when, blah, blah...
And, several contributors have insinuated (if not outright stated), that adding extra power via Engine Upgrades or Mods makes the stock brakes inadequeate, and this simply isn't the case. The weight of the car hasn't increased appreciably, at least not to the point of making the stock brakes any less safe.
--- Again, I disagree. If you have the capability of building speed faster and to higher potentials, you should also have better brakes. How can you disagree, other than to be, well... disagreeable?
I am not averse to upgrading to the 'S' brakes, but for the $2000-$3000 or more involved, people should know that the improvement won't be significant, the benefit will be mostly bragging rights and aesthetics, which is OK, but one shouldn't try to justify the expense because of better performance...
--- However, you've already admitted they DO perform better. If someone wants to spend the money to upgrade for the 7 feet less in distance and the better fade resistance, why do you feel compelled to endlessly argue against it? It's not your money...