afaict, the dice solution has line out, too -- sorry if i'm mistaken -- also, once the link to most is established any rewiring of a "new" ipod connector would be, relatively, simple -- finally, the auto manufacturers' (besides porsche -- boo!) impetus to offer ipod connectivity is a bow down to marketshare, not drm (but drm is the means by which the ipod offers the greatest downloadable music store around with 90% plus marketshare) -- gotta love vertical integration upholding quality control . . . with a faint splash of marketing